“But after viewing the replay on their monitor, the Rays radio announcers said that the ball might have actually hit Oswalt on his back between his shoulders”
As a general rule I don’t wish for any player to be injured (and specifically, I have nothing against Oswalt aside from his uniform). However, purely from a baseball standpoint, it’s about time this stuff started happening to the Phillies. They’ve been way too lucky for way too long.
I don’t think he is making the team. They will roll with a couple of the other guys they got floating around. But, if they want to carry him as a worthless bench guy, more power to them.
well, actually it was the old style that I was restricted by, my last free flight under the old system but they were only letting me use them for early flights.
a couple of replies. it’s not unheard of. I seem to remember Benitez getting a few cheers.
It has nothing to do with optimism (except maybe optimistic that the Mets would hit Perez..but now that he’s a former met I’m supposed to be all doom and gloom and pretend I think he’ll kill the Mets?)
I caught the tail end of a segment on MLB network the other day where Reynolds and WIlliams were essentially blaming the Mets (pitching coach/staff) for the failures of Peres over the past 2 years.
I can’t believe anyone who has watched him pitch, or followed this drama could possibly have this opinion.
I don’t care if the Nats ‘fix’ him. He’s gone, I’m happy.
I like you attitude. Ditto for Castillo. they are gone, I never have to worry about seeing them in the lineup again, so I don’t really care what they do.
I don’t think Castillo is making the Phils anyway. No clue what the nats are thinking about Ollie, but that should help make sure they finish last!
Valdez has done well for the Phillies though even though Castillo is probably the better player…I hope Castillo makes their team and starts complaining about other guys playing over him…
irrelevant I know, though maybe not totally if we are discussing things that make the Phils worse!
Castillo brings the same problem to the Phils as the Mets. He only plays 2B. so worthless unless he is starting to some degree, since they have health issues at 3B and SS too. Anytime you use Castillo, it means others may have to shuffle too.
DNL tonight on SNY were ripping the Mets for cutting Castillo. Said he was the best of the candidates, he wasn’t a clubhouse cancer, his teammates liked him and he had one year left on his contract. Everyone but Jonas thought he should have been given the job.
Again…I don’t care. I don’t have to see him slap at a ball again, knowing it’s gonna be picked up quickly in the OF since they all play him like he’s a pitcher at the plate. That’s if he makes contact.
I’m not enamored with Emaus and I think he’ll be gone by the ASB. I think I’d rather see Murph playing second – and playing his heart out there – even if he does look like he’s got 2 left feet.
oleosmirf
3/23/2011-6:17pm at 6:17 pm (UTC -4)
i’ve found that I know more about the Mets than pretty much all of the so-called experts on SNY and WFAN…
stickguy
3/23/2011-6:20pm at 6:20 pm (UTC -4)
I really don’t understand this “castillo was the best” nonsense. Or more accurately, I think it is being misapplied.
1st, he was having a lousy camp overall. He had maybe 1 ball out of the IF, and no extra base hits. no range to speak of. etc.
but mostly, he had zero, nada, zippo upside. At best, he turned back the clock to 2009, and was again only a little below acceptable (as opposed to 2010, where he was way below guy off the street level bad).
so if you believed he was the best of the options, the real answer was to get some more options, fast,
besides, 2B is likely to be fluid. The OD starter may not make it to May, and it may be a revolving door, but I am willing to bet that whatever mix/match they do, it will overall significantly outperform what Castillo would do (assuming he could even stay healthy).
at least now there is a chance someone could have a surprisingly good year!
And of course, no need to hear Slappy piss and moan about being stuck in the 8 hole.
Beltran will most likely go on the DL to start the season and miss the first 4 games of the season. I also expect Isringhausen to start on the DL just so they don’t lose Acosta who would seemingly be the odd man out.
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Ceetar
3/23/2011-1:56pm at 1:56 pm (UTC -4)
this would seemingly go against reports that he won’t be ready.
Can we just get to the games already? I miss baseball. last weekend was a tease.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2011-2:02pm at 2:02 pm (UTC -4)
I’m thinking the reason some are reporting he might not be ready is b/c they’re keeping out of the Grapefruit league games on purpose.
If he’s not ready, they can back date DL him so he only misses the first series of the season.
Makes sense….if they’re reasonably sure he can acclimate pretty quickly to RF once he does play there.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2011-2:03pm at 2:03 pm (UTC -4)
Watching the game on ESPN and listening to Sandy’s interview in the booth.
I’m pretty sure I just heard him say Duda likely to start in AAA. Which makes sense if Beltran is ready to go.
Prismo
3/23/2011-2:12pm at 2:12 pm (UTC -4)
I’ll believe it when I see it.
wannybackstra
3/23/2011-2:15pm at 2:15 pm (UTC -4)
Even if he plays Opening Day, I’m sure it won’t be long before he’s on the shelf again anyway.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2011-2:17pm at 2:17 pm (UTC -4)
I’m reading that Oswalt was hit in the head on a line drive off Manny’s bat in that Ray’s game.
Prismo
3/23/2011-2:18pm at 2:18 pm (UTC -4)
*hit in the neck
Prismo
3/23/2011-2:27pm at 2:27 pm (UTC -4)
Sorry, half people are saying head, half are saying neck. Did anyone watch the game? haha
Prismo
3/23/2011-2:30pm at 2:30 pm (UTC -4)
“But after viewing the replay on their monitor, the Rays radio announcers said that the ball might have actually hit Oswalt on his back between his shoulders”
LOL WHERE DID IT HIT HIM
Ceetar
3/23/2011-2:31pm at 2:31 pm (UTC -4)
it hit him in Florida.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2011-2:38pm at 2:38 pm (UTC -4)
Update:
Hit under the right ear and being called a neck contusion. X-Rays being taken and did not lose conscience.
stickguy
3/23/2011-2:53pm at 2:53 pm (UTC -4)
good thing he didn’t lose his conscience. He might need that after he leaves the amoral land of Philly.
Prismo
3/23/2011-2:19pm at 2:19 pm (UTC -4)
As a general rule I don’t wish for any player to be injured (and specifically, I have nothing against Oswalt aside from his uniform). However, purely from a baseball standpoint, it’s about time this stuff started happening to the Phillies. They’ve been way too lucky for way too long.
Prismo
3/23/2011-2:34pm at 2:34 pm (UTC -4)
Word is: neck contusion/bruise behind his right ear/neck area. Getting x-rays at a hospital momentarily.
njstuckintx
3/23/2011-2:17pm at 2:17 pm (UTC -4)
Go Big Murph!
TRS86
3/23/2011-2:41pm at 2:41 pm (UTC -4)
Someone take Hernandez now, right off the field. LOL.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2011-2:41pm at 2:41 pm (UTC -4)
Meanwhile, Hernandez with an error at SS which results in a run.
Over in Philly land, Castillo is now 0 for 3, stranding 3 men on base.
Yup, he’s the answer to their prayers sans Utley.
stickguy
3/23/2011-2:55pm at 2:55 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t think he is making the team. They will roll with a couple of the other guys they got floating around. But, if they want to carry him as a worthless bench guy, more power to them.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2011-2:48pm at 2:48 pm (UTC -4)
Not a good outing for Acosta here today.
Just gave up a 3R HR.
stickguy
3/23/2011-2:56pm at 2:56 pm (UTC -4)
walked a guy before that too.
It would be nice to keep him in AAA (getting him through waivers), but just hard to get too worked up about losing him.
they got him off the scrap heap in the first place, and should be able to find a replacement that way at some point if they need to.
Ceetar
3/23/2011-3:18pm at 3:18 pm (UTC -4)
Perez to the Nats looking like.
Oh, and I’m up to 2 TRDMB peoples that I’ve met. Wonder if I can get to 3 or 4 by the end of the season.
stickguy
3/23/2011-3:25pm at 3:25 pm (UTC -4)
I’ll let you know if I manage to make it up this year. Only got to 1 game last year..
mrose
3/23/2011-3:49pm at 3:49 pm (UTC -4)
Ceet – if it was a Sunday you would have met Dirty as well
Ceetar
3/23/2011-3:55pm at 3:55 pm (UTC -4)
yeah, blame Jetblue and their arcane free flight restrictions.
mrose
3/23/2011-3:59pm at 3:59 pm (UTC -4)
yea, I remember when they changed them and claimed how great they would be.. they stink now
Ceetar
3/23/2011-4:02pm at 4:02 pm (UTC -4)
well, actually it was the old style that I was restricted by, my last free flight under the old system but they were only letting me use them for early flights.
next year.
mrose
3/23/2011-4:16pm at 4:16 pm (UTC -4)
yea, next year we need to have a large gathering
Prismo
3/23/2011-3:30pm at 3:30 pm (UTC -4)
Ollie refuses a minor league assignment with the Mets, but when released signs one with the Nats. Screw you Ollie.
Ceetar
3/23/2011-3:31pm at 3:31 pm (UTC -4)
There is a HUGE difference between midseason last year and this year.
Prismo
3/23/2011-3:36pm at 3:36 pm (UTC -4)
STOP DEFENDING OLLIE
My god, he’s not even on the team anymore, and you’re asking people if they should cheer for him. Leave it be, he’s gone.
Prismo
3/23/2011-3:38pm at 3:38 pm (UTC -4)
“Leave it be, he’s gone.”
And that could probably be said to me as well. However, when all the Mets beat writers are still reporting on him, I find it hard not to comment.
Ceetar
3/23/2011-3:45pm at 3:45 pm (UTC -4)
I never asked if people were going to cheer for him, I asked if people are going to cheer. Big difference, and got a lot of yeses.
Prismo
3/23/2011-3:49pm at 3:49 pm (UTC -4)
Who sarcastically said they’d cheer for him? COME ON. This is absurd. This isn’t even optimism, it’s ridiculism.
Ceetar
3/23/2011-3:54pm at 3:54 pm (UTC -4)
a couple of replies. it’s not unheard of. I seem to remember Benitez getting a few cheers.
It has nothing to do with optimism (except maybe optimistic that the Mets would hit Perez..but now that he’s a former met I’m supposed to be all doom and gloom and pretend I think he’ll kill the Mets?)
wannybackstra
3/23/2011-3:57pm at 3:57 pm (UTC -4)
I second the motion to dismiss any further Ollie support. Enough already.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2011-4:52pm at 4:52 pm (UTC -4)
I caught the tail end of a segment on MLB network the other day where Reynolds and WIlliams were essentially blaming the Mets (pitching coach/staff) for the failures of Peres over the past 2 years.
I can’t believe anyone who has watched him pitch, or followed this drama could possibly have this opinion.
I don’t care if the Nats ‘fix’ him. He’s gone, I’m happy.
Moving on….
stickguy
3/23/2011-4:56pm at 4:56 pm (UTC -4)
I like you attitude. Ditto for Castillo. they are gone, I never have to worry about seeing them in the lineup again, so I don’t really care what they do.
I don’t think Castillo is making the Phils anyway. No clue what the nats are thinking about Ollie, but that should help make sure they finish last!
Ceetar
3/23/2011-5:01pm at 5:01 pm (UTC -4)
Castillo could make the Phils..he’s better than Valdez anyway.
and the Nats are paying Ollie practically nothing for a chance, however miniscule that is.
They’re no longer on the team, so I don’t really care either way.
oleosmirf
3/23/2011-5:56pm at 5:56 pm (UTC -4)
Valdez has done well for the Phillies though even though Castillo is probably the better player…I hope Castillo makes their team and starts complaining about other guys playing over him…
TRS86
3/23/2011-5:58pm at 5:58 pm (UTC -4)
Are we basing it on last year? If so then Valdez had a higher WAR.
stickguy
3/23/2011-6:04pm at 6:04 pm (UTC -4)
irrelevant I know, though maybe not totally if we are discussing things that make the Phils worse!
Castillo brings the same problem to the Phils as the Mets. He only plays 2B. so worthless unless he is starting to some degree, since they have health issues at 3B and SS too. Anytime you use Castillo, it means others may have to shuffle too.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2011-6:06pm at 6:06 pm (UTC -4)
DNL tonight on SNY were ripping the Mets for cutting Castillo. Said he was the best of the candidates, he wasn’t a clubhouse cancer, his teammates liked him and he had one year left on his contract. Everyone but Jonas thought he should have been given the job.
Again…I don’t care. I don’t have to see him slap at a ball again, knowing it’s gonna be picked up quickly in the OF since they all play him like he’s a pitcher at the plate. That’s if he makes contact.
I’m not enamored with Emaus and I think he’ll be gone by the ASB. I think I’d rather see Murph playing second – and playing his heart out there – even if he does look like he’s got 2 left feet.
oleosmirf
3/23/2011-6:17pm at 6:17 pm (UTC -4)
i’ve found that I know more about the Mets than pretty much all of the so-called experts on SNY and WFAN…
stickguy
3/23/2011-6:20pm at 6:20 pm (UTC -4)
I really don’t understand this “castillo was the best” nonsense. Or more accurately, I think it is being misapplied.
1st, he was having a lousy camp overall. He had maybe 1 ball out of the IF, and no extra base hits. no range to speak of. etc.
but mostly, he had zero, nada, zippo upside. At best, he turned back the clock to 2009, and was again only a little below acceptable (as opposed to 2010, where he was way below guy off the street level bad).
so if you believed he was the best of the options, the real answer was to get some more options, fast,
besides, 2B is likely to be fluid. The OD starter may not make it to May, and it may be a revolving door, but I am willing to bet that whatever mix/match they do, it will overall significantly outperform what Castillo would do (assuming he could even stay healthy).
at least now there is a chance someone could have a surprisingly good year!
And of course, no need to hear Slappy piss and moan about being stuck in the 8 hole.
hazmet
3/23/2011-6:41pm at 6:41 pm (UTC -4)
I guess Beningo wasn’t on the set.
Mr North Jersey
3/23/2011-5:05pm at 5:05 pm (UTC -4)
You know how the saying goes. The best-laid plans of mice and men…
Prismo
3/23/2011-6:23pm at 6:23 pm (UTC -4)
…often go right!
oleosmirf
3/23/2011-5:49pm at 5:49 pm (UTC -4)
Beltran will most likely go on the DL to start the season and miss the first 4 games of the season. I also expect Isringhausen to start on the DL just so they don’t lose Acosta who would seemingly be the odd man out.
metsfan4decades
3/23/2011-6:08pm at 6:08 pm (UTC -4)
I wouldn’t doubt that might be the plan with Beltran either.
As far as Isringhausen, I never thought about the DL with him. Interesting idea. Gives him a little more time to get the arm in shape.
TRS86
3/23/2011-6:14pm at 6:14 pm (UTC -4)
So if the Nats actually bring OP up to the bigs does that make us even for the Jesus Flores situation?
LOL, borrowed that from a comment on MB.
oleosmirf
3/23/2011-6:20pm at 6:20 pm (UTC -4)
looks like losing Flores isn’t really that big of a deal after all. Thole looks like he’s going to work out just fine…
metsfan4decades
3/23/2011-6:23pm at 6:23 pm (UTC -4)
LOL.
This over on MLBTR on the Perez signing:
Oliver Perez is the next Sandy Koufax.”
- Scott Boras
As least Koufax knew when to quit.
njstuckintx
3/23/2011-6:26pm at 6:26 pm (UTC -4)
Sandy Koufax at his current age, he means. Well, Sandy can probably throw harder these days, so I take that back.
hazmet
3/23/2011-6:40pm at 6:40 pm (UTC -4)
Koufax should sue for defamation of character.