Izzy said he’s staying. “I’ve come this far, 2 more weeks won’t kill me.” #mets
David Lennon
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Mar 30
Izzy agrees to be left behind
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103 comments
saltygary
3/30/2011-11:32am at 11:32 am (UTC -4)
Awesome news. Something tells me if we had the old regime in place he would have walked.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-11:32am at 11:32 am (UTC -4)
All right, Izzy.
Glad to hear this.
TRS86
3/30/2011-11:37am at 11:37 am (UTC -4)
During that 2 weeks another team can call on Izzy and if the Mets don’t want him to go they have to call him up. Basically right of first refusal.
stickguy
3/30/2011-11:48am at 11:48 am (UTC -4)
I am guessing that during the 2 weeks he is somewhat off limits to other teams. One of the unwritten rules (like guys passing through waivers, unless you are the Yankees and claim them to be schmucks).
But who knows if another team calls tomorrow.
at this point, it is unclear if he is fully ready to go, and teams mostly have their rosters set, so it does seem logical for everyone to look at him for a couple weeks, along with their own teams, and see if it is worth making a move.
never know, by then he could look great, and one of the guys in the pen could be blowing chunks, and they make a move that way.
TRS86
3/30/2011-11:57am at 11:57 am (UTC -4)
See above, he is very on limits to other teams during this two weeks.
stickguy
3/30/2011-12:00pm at 12:00 pm (UTC -4)
they can, doesn’t mean they will.
TRS86
3/30/2011-12:02pm at 12:02 pm (UTC -4)
“I am guessing that during the 2 weeks he is somewhat off limits to other teams. ”
Again not saying anyone is likely. Just saying that he is very available.
Ceetar
3/30/2011-12:03pm at 12:03 pm (UTC -4)
yeah, don’t know what the GM code of ethics is.
If you were Amaro, wouldn’t you consider it just to try to burn out the Mets depth a little?
TRS86
3/30/2011-12:05pm at 12:05 pm (UTC -4)
LOL, like Amaro is really concerned about Mets depth at this point.
Ceetar
3/30/2011-12:11pm at 12:11 pm (UTC -4)
True, but it’s not like they couldn’t use a reliever, particularly one with closing experience.
stickguy
3/30/2011-11:51am at 11:51 am (UTC -4)
oh damn. I forgot to make my joke about the “no izzy left behind” program.
so consider it (poorly) made.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-12:11pm at 12:11 pm (UTC -4)
Last ST game starting now.
2 days until the season starter.
LGM!
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-12:17pm at 12:17 pm (UTC -4)
Per the Daily News:
(Instead of Feliciano, they get):
Luis Ayala makes the Yankees, relief pitcher last man added to the staff
kistics
3/30/2011-12:42pm at 12:42 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t understand why 2 weeks make any difference to the Mets. Parnell is the only one that can be sent down. So does this mean they’ll re-evaluate Parnell for 2 weeks? Or Beato for 2 weeks?
TRS86
3/30/2011-12:44pm at 12:44 pm (UTC -4)
Or see if an injury occurs or then be able to send Boyer down.
kistics
3/30/2011-1:15pm at 1:15 pm (UTC -4)
Boyer can be sent down after 2 weeks? That doesn’t make sense.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:19pm at 1:19 pm (UTC -4)
He had an opt out in his contract. Not sure what happens if the opt out date passes and then he is optioned.
kistics
3/30/2011-1:25pm at 1:25 pm (UTC -4)
I just don’t see Boyer not exercising the opt out clause if he knows there’s a possibility that he’ll be sent down after 2 weeks.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:26pm at 1:26 pm (UTC -4)
He does not have a choice. He’s on the team. No opt out if you are on the team.
stickguy
3/30/2011-1:31pm at 1:31 pm (UTC -4)
the opt out is moot at this point.
but, most likely, he does not (boyer) have options either. So if they try to send him down in 2 weeks, he can refuse to go.
To me, this move screams of continuing the Beato and Boyer auditions for 2 more weeks, along with Izzy of course, and if they think they made the wrong decision, one of the B’s gets cut instead.
of course, if someone gets hurt, that would open up a spot.
Parnell going down to keep them all is certainly an option, but probably not likely to be used.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:35pm at 1:35 pm (UTC -4)
I wonder if Boyer has the right to refuse AAA assignment? And at that point would he? Also have to think it’s a little about money because if he makes the MLB team he is getting MLB money.
kistics
3/30/2011-1:47pm at 1:47 pm (UTC -4)
Aren’t they committed major league salary for Boyer?
stickguy
3/30/2011-1:51pm at 1:51 pm (UTC -4)
yes, once the season starts, he has a ML deal, just not a very big one.
no idea how much money would override making a performance based move if a player happens to be stinking up the joint.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:52pm at 1:52 pm (UTC -4)
They are now. Question is how much do they have to pay if they send him back down or release him. Is his contract now a guaranteed deal?
TRS86
3/30/2011-12:43pm at 12:43 pm (UTC -4)
In other news… Chris Young is Tall.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-12:58pm at 12:58 pm (UTC -4)
Yes, yes he is. Makes Pelf look like his little brother.
In other news, Beltran fields a ball off the wall in RF and is still standing.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-12:59pm at 12:59 pm (UTC -4)
And he’s got a bat too.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-12:56pm at 12:56 pm (UTC -4)
Misch appears to have cleared waivers. No surprise there.
See nothing on Evans though.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:00pm at 1:00 pm (UTC -4)
Or Acosta other than the fact that he is not in uniform today.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:04pm at 1:04 pm (UTC -4)
Man, Wright looks dialed in.
Prismo
3/30/2011-1:09pm at 1:09 pm (UTC -4)
CASTILLO RELEASED!!
mrose
3/30/2011-1:11pm at 1:11 pm (UTC -4)
ah beat me to it
kistics
3/30/2011-1:15pm at 1:15 pm (UTC -4)
Dang.. I was hoping he would stay with the Philies…
mrose
3/30/2011-1:10pm at 1:10 pm (UTC -4)
http://nleastchatter.com/2011/03/castilllo-in-philly-experiment-over/
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-1:20pm at 1:20 pm (UTC -4)
wow, I’m surprised.
Even the Philly fans thought he was a lock to start the season.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:21pm at 1:21 pm (UTC -4)
I think they just claimed someone from the Giants maybe?
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:24pm at 1:24 pm (UTC -4)
Kevin Frandsen
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:25pm at 1:25 pm (UTC -4)
Also may have came down to keeping that rule 5 guy they like and Castillo. So he may have gotten Emaused again.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:11pm at 1:11 pm (UTC -4)
Baseball God to Castillo…. You’re done son.
mrose
3/30/2011-1:13pm at 1:13 pm (UTC -4)
ah Slappy McSingleton…
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-1:39pm at 1:39 pm (UTC -4)
LOL…this from a Phills fan that apparently wanted Castillo for his ‘high’ OBP:
“I must admit, on an otherwise well-run team, I find the Phillies’ excessive obsession with defense & versatility to border on the bizarre.”
Sure, no good reason to value defense. You’ve got the Fab 4. They’ll just strike out 27 every game.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:41pm at 1:41 pm (UTC -4)
Got to remember that’s a product of their park and style. No reason for a 2B with range when your RF is playing a deep 2B.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-1:48pm at 1:48 pm (UTC -4)
I get that but when Howard is your 1st baseman, you almost have to have above average defense and range at 2nd.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-1:23pm at 1:23 pm (UTC -4)
AnthonyDiComoAnthonyDiComo: Now on Mets.com: Johan disappointed he’s not heading north.
Um, he’s not the only one.
Ceetar
3/30/2011-1:49pm at 1:49 pm (UTC -4)
Saw someone tweet that c.C. Sabathia predicts teh Yanks will win it all. I mean, is this really the time to ask the inevitable stupid questions taht you know the answer to?
stickguy
3/30/2011-1:28pm at 1:28 pm (UTC -4)
Almost had a hard attack. Just flipped over to the box score, and the first line I saw was murphy, D – SS.
I did not know that the marlins had one too, and did not realize at first glance I was looking at their box.
kistics
3/30/2011-1:31pm at 1:31 pm (UTC -4)
Hard attack… hmm.. why is my mind in the gutter?
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:33pm at 1:33 pm (UTC -4)
LOL. Oh my.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-1:30pm at 1:30 pm (UTC -4)
So, will the usual suspects be joining me Friday night in the Dugout for the season opener?
Maybe you could put a mention on game thread on Friday about the Dugout?
stickguy
3/30/2011-1:32pm at 1:32 pm (UTC -4)
will be there at some point most likely.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:33pm at 1:33 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah we need to talk it up better than that. Will have to think on that one.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-1:49pm at 1:49 pm (UTC -4)
Thanks.
The Dugout is the next best thing to being at the Park and sharing the game with fans there.
Ceetar
3/30/2011-1:47pm at 1:47 pm (UTC -4)
Uh…I’m there now. never left..
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-1:50pm at 1:50 pm (UTC -4)
LOL…yes, I know.
I went there a couple of times this spring and saw the always present Ceetar signed in.
kistics
3/30/2011-1:30pm at 1:30 pm (UTC -4)
I was hoping the Phillies would keep Castillo.
wannybackstra
3/30/2011-1:34pm at 1:34 pm (UTC -4)
Eddie C. talking about Beltran moving slowly in RF.
Can’t be; he’s perfectly healthy. Afterall, he’s out there.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:35pm at 1:35 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed. Man we are seeing eye to eye a lot lately. LOL.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:39pm at 1:39 pm (UTC -4)
That being said, I am more in the middle on this debate. Obviously Beltran is not healthy and will never be the same. It becomes a question as to how much he can play through pain.
Also, not really concerned about him moving slowly in RF. He’s most likely sore as hell. Wanny I will assume you are healthy but if you went and ran 5 miles (assuming you don’t now) you would be sore the next day. Obviously Beltran is an athlete and should not be sore from playing in one game. However, he has not played and thus I am sure he is.
wannybackstra
3/30/2011-1:42pm at 1:42 pm (UTC -4)
Moses smell the roses.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:49pm at 1:49 pm (UTC -4)
Again, talking to the wrong one on this one Wanny. I am on record saying I would be happy with 100 games from Beltran this year.
stickguy
3/30/2011-1:44pm at 1:44 pm (UTC -4)
shove him in the ice filled bath tub and tell the namby pampy candy ass to suck it up.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-1:51pm at 1:51 pm (UTC -4)
He’s going to have a lot of ground to cover out there in RF…..
And yes, watching the game today he’s not moving all that quick on balls that were hit down the RF corner.
wannybackstra
3/30/2011-1:38pm at 1:38 pm (UTC -4)
I read somewhere on this site today that someone thought Evans would be a candidate to replace Bay if he is DLd. Don’t think so because when Bay came back Evans would have to be placed through waivers again. In all likelihood, Duda would get the spot because he’s got options. Evans will probably not come back up until it looks like he’ll stick for a while (which I don’t think will ever happen unless Hairston get hurt).
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:40pm at 1:40 pm (UTC -4)
True but if they were ok with losing him one time, wouldn’t they be ok with losing him again? Also, if he was not claimed now is it likely he would be in 2 weeks?
wannybackstra
3/30/2011-1:46pm at 1:46 pm (UTC -4)
A lot of things can happen in 2 weeks. Why risk it when you have someone like Duda and won’t have to take the chance?
stickguy
3/30/2011-1:49pm at 1:49 pm (UTC -4)
but if they are afraid of calling him up because they might lose him, what is the point of bringing him back at all? To keep him in the minors, until (if) a permanent job opens up?
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:50pm at 1:50 pm (UTC -4)
Why not risk it? LOL. If they risk it before, is it really a risk?
I guess I am thinking that they might go with platoons in LF and RF (the 2 games a week Beltran is out…. LOL).
wannybackstra
3/30/2011-2:00pm at 2:00 pm (UTC -4)
Do you have some kind of information that confirms that over the next few weeks no team will have a change in circumstances that might lead them to want to place a claim on a guy like Evans?
TRS86
3/30/2011-2:04pm at 2:04 pm (UTC -4)
Do you have info that they will? Of course not.
My point is that if they were not that concerned before then why would they be then? He’s a player without a position or future with the Mets. Why try and stash him at AAA?
Ceetar
3/30/2011-2:13pm at 2:13 pm (UTC -4)
I doubt they’d reexpose him for less than 2 weeks, Just seems unnecessary. But given a longer time period than that, there’s a chance that he’ll be good enough to stick anywya or bad enough to clear again regardless.
wannybackstra
3/30/2011-2:17pm at 2:17 pm (UTC -4)
Sometimes talking to you is like talking to Yogi Berra. AFLAC!!!
Why is it a risk? Because you have no assurance that another team won’t claim him.
And just because they exposed him now doesn’t mean they want to lose him. Don’t you think they might still prefer to keep him? Within the rules they have no choice but to expose him. But he’s performed well this Spring and there’s reason to think that the team might think he would be useful to retain at AAA for depth.
I find it hard to believe that you would argue such things — ye old author of the sore muscles hypothesis.
TRS86
3/30/2011-2:22pm at 2:22 pm (UTC -4)
I too find it hard to believe we are even spending enough time on Evans to argue.
My point is that I don’t think the Mets will consider it a huge risk to expose him again considering they did it the first time. Yeah it COULD be a larger risk but I just think if they were willing to take the risk this time they would be willing to take that risk again. Then again they could think “whew, we got lucky there. Let’s not try that again…”
stickguy
3/30/2011-1:48pm at 1:48 pm (UTC -4)
couple points.
1, the if he gets any other ML offers he won’t take a MiL deal with the mets. so, they may have to offer him a ML deal, in which case he will be on the team until Bay comes back, then waived again, but they won’t lose anything doing that.
the only way they could jeopardize keeping him is he he clears, and signs a MiL deal. Still not sure that would prevent them from signing him though, if they think he is the best option.
2. No reports yet on Bay, right? But there is a decent chance, if something is torn, that he could be out way longer than the first 10 days or so of the season. If they are looking at 4-6 weeks, or more, Evans having to clear waivers again will be a minor issue.
wannybackstra
3/30/2011-1:50pm at 1:50 pm (UTC -4)
i think that if he goes unclaimed he remains property of the Mets until or unless they release him.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-1:53pm at 1:53 pm (UTC -4)
My understanding as well.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:51pm at 1:51 pm (UTC -4)
Stick, he does not have the right to refuse to report. He’s too young. If he clears then he has to report.
stickguy
3/30/2011-1:53pm at 1:53 pm (UTC -4)
really? I thought that when you were out of options you could refuse an assignment. That takes more years of service to be able to do?
Acosta and Hernandez aren’t in that situation, are they?
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:57pm at 1:57 pm (UTC -4)
Not sure, no idea what their service time is.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-1:54pm at 1:54 pm (UTC -4)
Gary said the Mets have until 11am tomorrow to submit their 25 man roster to MLB. Said they’re probably going to use every one of the minutes left to figure it out
I know Bay was on a plane to NY today for an MRI but have you ever flown into any of the tri state area airports? When I used to travel all the time for work, 1 out of every 2 flights back into Newark were always late.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-1:56pm at 1:56 pm (UTC -4)
Did you see that line drive HR Josh Satin just hit.
Nice, he didn’t even know it was a HR.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:57pm at 1:57 pm (UTC -4)
Is that our 1st HR by a 2B this year?
stickguy
3/30/2011-2:00pm at 2:00 pm (UTC -4)
No, Emaus has one. Not sure if any others.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:57pm at 1:57 pm (UTC -4)
“C Max Ramirez has cleared waivers and been outrighted to the Minor League camp”
Dolt…. uh…. what were we thinking?
stickguy
3/30/2011-1:59pm at 1:59 pm (UTC -4)
what? The Mets have absolutely no depth at C, even with paulino. If he is gone for a while, they are paper thin.
I did not look, but can Ramirez possibly be so bad that the Mets couldn’t use him?
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-2:02pm at 2:02 pm (UTC -4)
Have no idea.
I know Sandy said yesterday, even not knowing the extent of Paulino’s health problem until all tests are back, are not looking at catching depth at this time.
TRS86
3/30/2011-2:02pm at 2:02 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed, I guess they did not want to place him on the 25 man instead of Mickie at this point. Maybe they are preferring familiarity. Of course they would have also had to clear a spot on the 40 man that they may not currently have.
Ceetar
3/30/2011-2:11pm at 2:11 pm (UTC -4)
I’m partial to Kai Gronauer, who’s probably not ready anyway and it’s just because I ran into him at a bar.
TRS86
3/30/2011-2:19pm at 2:19 pm (UTC -4)
Was he ok?
Ceetar
3/30/2011-2:22pm at 2:22 pm (UTC -4)
yeah, he only had a glass or two of wine. Him, Turner and Hairston left pretty quickly though.
TRS86
3/30/2011-2:23pm at 2:23 pm (UTC -4)
LOL, you missed it. I was making the 2nd grade joke of was he ok after you ran into him.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-2:28pm at 2:28 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t know what that says about me that I got it. lol.
Ceetar
3/30/2011-3:10pm at 3:10 pm (UTC -4)
nah, not really. but I didn’t have a good 2nd grade retort ready, so i just ignored it.
I didn’t hit anything in florida with my car while i was down there. Didn’t see Tim Hudson or Victorino though.
stickguy
3/30/2011-1:57pm at 1:57 pm (UTC -4)
probably means he did clear then, if he is still in camp in uniform. Unlike acosta.
never did trust that guy. And TK will surely be glad he is gone.
TRS86
3/30/2011-1:59pm at 1:59 pm (UTC -4)
LOL, Hairston showing why he is here and Evans might not be.
stickguy
3/30/2011-2:02pm at 2:02 pm (UTC -4)
he has had a nice spring.
and once again, the spare parts come in, and the mets pile up a big inning!
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-2:04pm at 2:04 pm (UTC -4)
You know, I seemed to remember this last spring too. All those hitting were not those expected to make the team – like Ike.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-2:05pm at 2:05 pm (UTC -4)
Then again, could be b/c after a couple of times through the lineup, when you take the regulars out, you might have a guy on the mound for the opposition who is not expected to make the team either. Or back end guy from their BP.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-2:03pm at 2:03 pm (UTC -4)
I’ll be real surprised if Hairston continues hitting like this once the season starts. But I’ll take it if he does!
TRS86
3/30/2011-2:05pm at 2:05 pm (UTC -4)
He won’t hit like this for sure but if used in a platoon he will be very useful.
Ceetar
3/30/2011-2:14pm at 2:14 pm (UTC -4)
He provides nice CF backup, particularly against tough lefties.
TRS86
3/30/2011-2:24pm at 2:24 pm (UTC -4)
Kelly Stinnett last Rule 5 guy to stay all year.
TRS86
3/30/2011-2:24pm at 2:24 pm (UTC -4)
Luis Hernandez has also cleared waivers. Guess the Phillies did not want him for 2B either. I am sure Collins is dancing in the streets….. LOL.
metsfan4decades
3/30/2011-2:28pm at 2:28 pm (UTC -4)
And with that win, ST comes to an end.
Another season begins.
LGM!