Mike Pelfrey drew Randy Wolf in the second night game in Milwaukee, it was a pitchers duel until the fourth inning. The Mets would lose but Paulino would go 4-4 and Jose Reyes would have yet another multi-hit night.
The scoring started ironically enough, with Jason Bay, who basically can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat. He was hit by a pitch to lead off the fourth and pushed over to third by a Paulino’s second single of the night. Randy Wolf would balk Jason Bay home for the first run of the game. Unfortunately for Pelfrey, who did pitch into the sixth inning, Prince Fielder would leave the yard and put the Brew Crew up by a run.
The Met offense would remain dormant until the top of the eighth inning when they would explode for five runs off the Brewer bullpen. It would be Ronny Paulino who would hit a three run bomb to complete his 4-4 night and put the Mets up 6-2. If this was any other team, you could shut your TV off or change the channel to the Cooking Shows and bank on a win.
But as bad as the Brewers Bullpen melted, the Mets couldn’t be shown up. The Mets sent up Pedro Beato to pitch the bottom of the eighth and he got rocked for 3 runs. Izzy came in to put out the fire only to be torched by Fielder’s second home run of the night to tie the score at 6 a piece.
Thayer would come in the bottom of the ninth and give up the winning run.
Jon Niese will try to win the Rubber game.
Side Notes: Mike Pelfrey made one mistake tonight but pitched brilliantly scattering 4 hits over 6 innings. It made me feel good to watch another bullpen meltdown tonight in the Brewers. Of course the Mets cannot be outshined or outdone and did their own meltdown as well. Ronny Paulino hit a bomb but Prince Fielder hit two bombs. Jason Bay looks like he can’t hit a little league pitch. I don’t care what anyone says, Gary Cohen and Keith Hernandez are the best TV announcers in baseball. Tonight was really shaping up to be a good night, the Yankees got embarrassed at home and with the Mets sitting on 5 run lead in the eighth, it was all but done. So much for a nice Tuesday night.
42 comments
metsfan4decades
6/8/2011-11:33pm at 11:33 pm (UTC -4)
I’ve got nothing.
This BP stinks, plain and simple.
I believe that’s 7 blown saves after the 6th inning in the past month.
BP coughed up 29/30 blown saves in ’08 so we got a ways to go to break that record.
I have no idea what the answer is. If they don’t get it together, it’s going to be a long summer. Not unless the starters all want to pitch CGs.
stickguy
6/8/2011-11:39pm at 11:39 pm (UTC -4)
first, you don’t pull a SP that is dealing after 6 innings in a 1 run game.
beyond that, try someone new. trade? some kind of FA? Or just call up someone doing the job in the minors with a live arm and see what happens.
metsfan4decades
6/8/2011-11:48pm at 11:48 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, but who exactly would that be? Iggy scares me. He was doing O.K., but blew it the other night. They tried Thayer. Not sure who else there is. Beauto walking the leadoff man with a 4 run lead was beyond poor.
I understand the mindset of leaving Pelf out there but down a run, with one man on, I guess TC went for it.
I’m starting to think the only way we’ll take the series is if Niese pitches a complete game tomorrow. Sigh….
stickguy
6/8/2011-11:57pm at 11:57 pm (UTC -4)
I wasn’t thinking of Iggy, though he is still likely better than thayer.
I was thinking about young guys, not retreads, to try something new.
kingman 26
6/8/2011-11:50pm at 11:50 pm (UTC -4)
Milwaukee is better than us.
This is what mediocre teams do. They look real good for a few games, then pull a revolting stinker like tonight.
We are in precisely the same spot we were in after beating the Yanks to get to .500.
stickguy
6/8/2011-11:55pm at 11:55 pm (UTC -4)
looked like 2 stinky teams tonight. and series is still tied 1-1.
gategem
6/9/2011-12:13am at 12:13 am (UTC -4)
I have had the opportunity to witness a few Brewers games this year and one thing is obviously clear. They’re considerably more talented than the Mets and at 8 games over .500 they have underachieved. The Mets had the opportunity to steal a series win from a far superior ballclub tonight but unfortunately the arson squad (aka Mets’ bullpen) couldn’t hold a four run lead in the 8th. If I was TC I would be very reluctant to pull a starting pitcher in any given game.
Prismo
6/9/2011-8:57am at 8:57 am (UTC -4)
You know the Mets can still win the series, right?
Kirk_C
6/9/2011-12:00am at 12:00 am (UTC -4)
Collins should have gone with KRod in the 9th. Too often teams are left with their best reliever wasted because baseball tradition says you hold onto your closer for a save situation. Problem is, when you’re depending on players like Thayer you often never see that situation. Get to extra innings first, worry about who’s going to get the save later.
stickguy
6/9/2011-12:03am at 12:03 am (UTC -4)
not sure that right now I trust K rod any more than the rest of them.
metsfan4decades
6/9/2011-12:27am at 12:27 am (UTC -4)
I’m going with Krod’s last 3 poor outings were due to the oral surgery and losing 15 lbs because of it. At least that’s what I’m telling myself….
Kirk_C
6/9/2011-1:12am at 1:12 am (UTC -4)
Although it’s true that KRod hasn’t been very good of late, he’s still your best reliever. Why save your best bullet and risk not getting a chance to use it?
stickguy
6/9/2011-7:27am at 7:27 am (UTC -4)
the logic on the road is that you are going to need an inning out of someone else anyway I believe. But yeah, when there is no one else trustworthy, might as well try it.
TRS86
6/9/2011-7:57am at 7:57 am (UTC -4)
Agreed. To me that’s like saving your best PH in a tie game for the last AB when you have runners on 1st and 2nd with the pitcher up.
TRS86
6/9/2011-7:56am at 7:56 am (UTC -4)
Agreed, that bugs the hell out of me. Honestly, I think he should have brought him in during the 8th. I have always said your closer is not there to get saves but to win the game.
metsfan4decades
6/9/2011-8:04am at 8:04 am (UTC -4)
The only problem I have with this is if the BP is that lousy and TC knows it, we could wind up seeing KRod out there every night and for more than a 3 out save. Do that too much and he’ll be joining the ranks of the ‘crap’ we have out there.
In theory I agree but it’s a hindsight type of mindset, IMO. TC ought to be able to count on at least 2 arms out there, minimum. Right now, he doesn’t even have that.
Beato was awful. Walking the first guy with a 4 run lead? Someone should tell him the idea is to get outs not necessarily Ks in that situation. And IMO, he was left out there for one batter too many.
wannybackstra
6/9/2011-12:50pm at 12:50 pm (UTC -4)
If Krod pitches a 12 pitch inning (however unlikely it is that he even throws a strike in his first 12 pitches) you still have him for another inning too.
kistics
6/9/2011-12:01am at 12:01 am (UTC -4)
Something is wrong with Izzy. With exception of last night, he has been terrible. This BP cannot get anybody out. So f-in frustrating to see Beato not throwing strikes with 4 run lead. THROW A F-IN STRIKE YOU DOUCHE!!
gategem
6/9/2011-12:16am at 12:16 am (UTC -4)
I don’t think Izzy’s arm can withstand the rigors of the contestant use required of him as the setup man. In the offseason he should visit the same Doctor Bartolo Colón saw last winter.
gategem
6/9/2011-12:17am at 12:17 am (UTC -4)
That sb consistent not contestant.
kistics
6/9/2011-12:07am at 12:07 am (UTC -4)
This is ’08 season all over!! WTF??
Oh BTW, when you are a lefty specialist, YOU HAVE TO GET THE LEFTY OUT!! What use is Byrdak if he can’t get a lefty out?? I know he was effective early in the season, but he has been terrible lately.
This season lefties are hitting .278 against him and righties are hitting .263.
stickguy
6/9/2011-7:29am at 7:29 am (UTC -4)
I have not really noticed Byrdak being particularly useful at all. There must be a loogy type in the minors. Don’t thy have a big sidearm lefty in one of the pens down there? Merritt?
njstuckintx
6/9/2011-8:37am at 8:37 am (UTC -4)
Are we having fun yet?
metsfan4decades
6/9/2011-8:38am at 8:38 am (UTC -4)
I just looked at Carrasco’s numbers down there. He’s been pitching good of late. Last night:
7 IP, 2 H, 0 BB, 8 K
Maybe it’s time we recalled him for the pen? Although, I wonder if part of his success down there lately is due to starting. I can’t remember if it was DJ who said he didn’t care where he pitched (BP or SP) or not.
Something to look forward to in about 18 months or so?
Harvey last night: 6 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 9K
njstuckintx
6/9/2011-8:43am at 8:43 am (UTC -4)
For all we (and most did) complain when Harvey was picked, he certainly looks like he’s on track to be a fixture in this rotation for a long while.
As for Carrasco, I’m sure it’s more the competition level he’s facing more than anything else. And I’m sure if the options are starting in the minors vs. relieving in the Majors, relieving will win 99 out of 100 times.
TRS86
6/9/2011-8:44am at 8:44 am (UTC -4)
Harvey’s looked great. He should move up soon. DJ I think he did say that about starting and relieving but wanted a chance to start. At this point you would think he would rather be in the majors than out.
TRS86
6/9/2011-8:45am at 8:45 am (UTC -4)
One nice thing with Harvey, 63k 16 walks.
njstuckintx
6/9/2011-8:48am at 8:48 am (UTC -4)
That’s impressive. Looking at both Harvey and Mejia being in you rotation come 2013 is going to be a nice influx of young arms, with conceivably Niese and Gee still there as well (and still cheap). Not shabby. Not shabby at all.
TRS86
6/9/2011-8:58am at 8:58 am (UTC -4)
Don’t sleep on Familia either. He’s done ok moving up to AA this year already.
Dirtysanchez
6/9/2011-8:48am at 8:48 am (UTC -4)
Can we trade bay for ike on the disabled list…ike on one foot is more useful
metsfan4decades
6/9/2011-9:01am at 9:01 am (UTC -4)
From all I’ve read and listened to there isn’t anyone who has a clue what Bay’s problem is. I’ve heard Keith mention it a few times this week. Basically, he said he’s got no idea. Other than watching him swing through balls he used to turn on and definitely seems to be pressing, he’s got no idea either.
As opposed to Wright who he’s analyzed at depth many times in the last year…..
TRS86
6/9/2011-9:58am at 9:58 am (UTC -4)
One thing with Wright and Keith is that he most likely has seen Wright when he was good a lot more than he did Bay. Two he most likely feels a lot more attached to Wright.
TRS86
6/9/2011-8:59am at 8:59 am (UTC -4)
Oh and by the way, Nick Evans is NOT an MLB player much less anything of value. He’s just not very good. It’s not about sample size anymore. He’s just your basic AAAA player.
metsfan4decades
6/9/2011-9:04am at 9:04 am (UTC -4)
Maybe if he’d quit swinging for the fences he’d have some success up here.
Or he should take a page out of Tejada’s book. Ruben knows he’s no power hitter and this latest call up, I’m seeing a bit different hitter out there. He’s thinking at the plate and trying to adjust to the situation, do what’s called for in a particular situation if there are men on base.
TRS86
6/9/2011-9:56am at 9:56 am (UTC -4)
Thing is, IF Evans is not a power hitter then uh… Evans is not a hitter. He does not play defense well enough to be a defense guy with a decent average. He has to hit for power to be useful and to me as I always said with him it’s much a do about little.
wannybackstra
6/9/2011-12:53pm at 12:53 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed on Evans. He’s just AAAA roster filler. Not that I wouldn’t trade places with him in a second…
Also agree with M$D on Tejada. The kid — he’s still only 21 — is showing tremendous promise as an excellent middle infielder and a solid hitter. He seems to have the approach of Edgardo Alfonzo but without the power (hey, maybe it develops).
Ceetar
6/9/2011-10:55am at 10:55 am (UTC -4)
you mean the like 12 AB over a month isn’t a small sample size?
TRS86
6/9/2011-10:59am at 10:59 am (UTC -4)
Nope I mean this: .243 .298 .387 .685 over the course of 108 MLB games.
I also mean this: .249 .310 .444 .754 over 139 games in AAA.
TRS86
6/9/2011-11:00am at 11:00 am (UTC -4)
And this: .273 .338 .474 .812 in 689 minor league games in his career.
Come on, this guy just is not that good.
stickguy
6/9/2011-11:34am at 11:34 am (UTC -4)
well, Jason bay would kill for those MLB numbers now.
njstuckintx
6/9/2011-11:37am at 11:37 am (UTC -4)
So would Uggly and the Ox.
njstuckintx
6/9/2011-11:41am at 11:41 am (UTC -4)
err, Donkey, not Ox. Whatever. Hoofed animal.