The big question is can they keep it up. Remember Turner and Tejada are starting to come back to earth a little bit. Hopefully Bay improves some to compensate…
there will likely be more separation in the next month or so (closer to the trade deadline). So a few teams will find their level and proper category.
where the Mets will be, who the hell knows with this team?
But, Beltran is the one guy that I could see moved even if they are still close (say the same situation they are in right now, close but not close at the same time).
But, I think that if the Mets are out of the running, they trade him for anything they can get. Kind of fringy, they will require a better return. And if they are within 1-2 games of the WC with the big guns returning, they will keep him unless blown away.
I think they’ll have to flip a coin and say, “hey, we can do it, but only with Carlos” or “hey, we’ll try, but it’s not worth it to not get something back for Carlos.” I lean toward option 2.
dude, you don’t know the half of it. master plan in effect. hoping (planning) on pacific northwest in 12-14 months. Kong, will hit you up for info as the plan progresses.
PS, you’ll never imagine it, but it’s frickin hot down here.
My cousin lives in Houston, Texas and he claims that in the summer the water temperature out of the cold water tap is equal to the temperature of the water out of the hot water tap. A number of years ago I was on a business trip that took me to RCA in Camden, New Jersey (RCA is no longer there and has been replaced by, I believe it to be, L3 Communications). One of their plants overlooked the Delaware Water Gap and they claimed that in the summer it would burst into spontaneous combustion. However, one of the worst places I have ever been to in the summer was Pascagoula Mississippi.
njstuckintx
6/16/2011-2:57pm at 2:57 pm (UTC -4)
I’ve been to Pascagoula. You’re not missing much by not having a chance to visit there.
stickguy
6/16/2011-3:48pm at 3:48 pm (UTC -4)
any time I hear about some podunk town with terrible heat in the deep south I always think about the army doing basic training. I assume Biloxi is in that area too?
They might not, but frankly, it is not that far fetched. As always, it will come down to which team stays healthy and/or has an unexpected hot streak at the right time.
and if you look at the chart, and the NL. there really are not many really good (even mostly good!) teams out there. Atlanta has talent but some holes/issues. St. louis? AZ? Colorado? None of them look like locks for the WS either!
I just look at the 2nd place teams in each division, and see which ones scare me, and right now, none of them do.
That’s a fair assessment. I know people think I’m a ‘doom and gloom idiot’ when I say this, but I just don’t see the pitching keeping the team in contention all season. In the last 20 starts the rotation has a low-2 ERA, which is why the team is on the run it’s on. No way do I see that holding up (and the bullpen continues to be a roller coaster). These guys will come down to Earth to different degrees, and we’ll see where they wind up averaging out to. Call me an idiot pessimist or whatever, but I still see the team as a 78-82 win team in the end. We’ll see, though. Right now they’re fun to watch, so that’s all that matters.
stickguy
6/16/2011-5:43pm at 5:43 pm (UTC -4)
82 may not be that far off. this could easily be a year where 88 wins gets you the WC
and early season flavor of the month Florida has somehow managed to plummet into the cellar, behind the Nats. Just shows how quickly team fortunes can change.
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oleosmirf
6/16/2011-2:01pm at 2:01 pm (UTC -4)
The big question is can they keep it up. Remember Turner and Tejada are starting to come back to earth a little bit. Hopefully Bay improves some to compensate…
njstuckintx
6/16/2011-2:01pm at 2:01 pm (UTC -4)
What a glut of teams. i wonder if this is going to reduce the number of sellers or push up the number of buyers.
If it is a seller’s market, yet the Mets are still in the hunt, do they move Beltran?
stickguy
6/16/2011-2:08pm at 2:08 pm (UTC -4)
there will likely be more separation in the next month or so (closer to the trade deadline). So a few teams will find their level and proper category.
where the Mets will be, who the hell knows with this team?
But, Beltran is the one guy that I could see moved even if they are still close (say the same situation they are in right now, close but not close at the same time).
But, I think that if the Mets are out of the running, they trade him for anything they can get. Kind of fringy, they will require a better return. And if they are within 1-2 games of the WC with the big guns returning, they will keep him unless blown away.
njstuckintx
6/16/2011-2:11pm at 2:11 pm (UTC -4)
Trouble is, he’s their 2nd best hitter.
I think they’ll have to flip a coin and say, “hey, we can do it, but only with Carlos” or “hey, we’ll try, but it’s not worth it to not get something back for Carlos.” I lean toward option 2.
stickguy
6/16/2011-2:24pm at 2:24 pm (UTC -4)
it would help if a replacement (say, F Mart) was on fire at AAA and looking ready to take over early.
Beltran has actually been kind of quiet lately though, hasn’t he?
njstuckintx
6/16/2011-2:36pm at 2:36 pm (UTC -4)
Last 7 games. 8/26. 1 R, 5 RBI, 4 BB, 2 SB. no HRs.
that’s .308 avg. not sure how many XB hits.
Not a bad quiet.
stickguy
6/16/2011-2:04pm at 2:04 pm (UTC -4)
Man, Houston really sucks.
And so do the Astros! (had to throw that in for stuck.)
njstuckintx
6/16/2011-2:09pm at 2:09 pm (UTC -4)
dude, you don’t know the half of it. master plan in effect. hoping (planning) on pacific northwest in 12-14 months. Kong, will hit you up for info as the plan progresses.
PS, you’ll never imagine it, but it’s frickin hot down here.
stickguy
6/16/2011-2:23pm at 2:23 pm (UTC -4)
good luck. I spent a bit of time once in July/August in Memphis, and that was bad enough.
Normal seemed to be 95deg. and 95% humidity
gategem
6/16/2011-2:44pm at 2:44 pm (UTC -4)
My cousin lives in Houston, Texas and he claims that in the summer the water temperature out of the cold water tap is equal to the temperature of the water out of the hot water tap. A number of years ago I was on a business trip that took me to RCA in Camden, New Jersey (RCA is no longer there and has been replaced by, I believe it to be, L3 Communications). One of their plants overlooked the Delaware Water Gap and they claimed that in the summer it would burst into spontaneous combustion. However, one of the worst places I have ever been to in the summer was Pascagoula Mississippi.
njstuckintx
6/16/2011-2:57pm at 2:57 pm (UTC -4)
I’ve been to Pascagoula. You’re not missing much by not having a chance to visit there.
stickguy
6/16/2011-3:48pm at 3:48 pm (UTC -4)
any time I hear about some podunk town with terrible heat in the deep south I always think about the army doing basic training. I assume Biloxi is in that area too?
njstuckintx
6/16/2011-4:01pm at 4:01 pm (UTC -4)
but a hop and a skip away.
Africa hot.
Tarazan could take this kind of hot.
stickguy
6/16/2011-3:47pm at 3:47 pm (UTC -4)
hairston in CF tonight? Seems kind of random.
kistics
6/16/2011-3:59pm at 3:59 pm (UTC -4)
Still have a lot of hurdles to jump over… I’m glad that this team is at .500, but I just can’t see them winning the WC..
darknova306
6/16/2011-4:49pm at 4:49 pm (UTC -4)
Neither do I, but at least they’re fun to watch this year.
stickguy
6/16/2011-4:56pm at 4:56 pm (UTC -4)
They might not, but frankly, it is not that far fetched. As always, it will come down to which team stays healthy and/or has an unexpected hot streak at the right time.
and if you look at the chart, and the NL. there really are not many really good (even mostly good!) teams out there. Atlanta has talent but some holes/issues. St. louis? AZ? Colorado? None of them look like locks for the WS either!
I just look at the 2nd place teams in each division, and see which ones scare me, and right now, none of them do.
So hell, why not the Mets!
darknova306
6/16/2011-5:09pm at 5:09 pm (UTC -4)
That’s a fair assessment. I know people think I’m a ‘doom and gloom idiot’ when I say this, but I just don’t see the pitching keeping the team in contention all season. In the last 20 starts the rotation has a low-2 ERA, which is why the team is on the run it’s on. No way do I see that holding up (and the bullpen continues to be a roller coaster). These guys will come down to Earth to different degrees, and we’ll see where they wind up averaging out to. Call me an idiot pessimist or whatever, but I still see the team as a 78-82 win team in the end. We’ll see, though. Right now they’re fun to watch, so that’s all that matters.
stickguy
6/16/2011-5:43pm at 5:43 pm (UTC -4)
82 may not be that far off. this could easily be a year where 88 wins gets you the WC
stickguy
6/16/2011-4:57pm at 4:57 pm (UTC -4)
and early season flavor of the month Florida has somehow managed to plummet into the cellar, behind the Nats. Just shows how quickly team fortunes can change.