Reyes had his press conference to introduce him to Miami and he thanked the fans for supporting him through the good and bad and thanked the Mets for giving him an opportunity to play Major League Baseball multiple times.
He then said how he was impressed with how Miami pursued him. Specifically that they went to see him a minute into his free agency and how the Mets never really made an offer. Overall he said all the right things to mostly what was New York media questions (Where is the Florida media by the way?) one of them being that in the end “this is a business.” and once the Marlins reached his magic number of 6 years $100M he signed and not until that time.
Good luck Reyes except whenever you play the Mets.
39 comments
MetsFan4Decades
12/7/2011-8:08pm at 8:08 pm (UTC -4)
AdamRubinESPN
Adam Rubin
Some players that doesn’t matter. Jose wants to feel wanted/liked. That’s his personality.
AdamRubinESPN
Adam Rubin
corrected: “If you’re asking
me if I should have sent him a box of chocolates, perhaps I should have
done that.” — Alderson on Reyes.
Joelsherman1
Joel Sherman
Fascinating is #Mets r talking with suitors seriously about Ike Davis. #Rangers, #Pirates need 1B. Tex in particular is known to like Ike
AdamRubinESPN
Adam Rubin
If Mets trade Ike Davis too,
they might as well close up shop. Fact is: They don’t have that many
likeable players in fans’ eyes.
AdamRubinESPN
Adam Rubin
An unwatchable team that nobody likes. Good luck with the revenue.
AdamRubinESPN
Adam Rubin
I’m not even referring to
this Ike report, but seriously, is there a more tone-deaf franchise in
sports? Dodger Stadium east, etc.
JOSE REYES: Like I said, they showed they really wanted me here.
12:01, those guys are crazy, 12:01 because they want me here? That’s
why I’m here today, because like I said, they showed me a lot of love,
and I have to make a decision.
**********
Sigh.
MetsFan4Decades
12/7/2011-8:08pm at 8:08 pm (UTC -4)
Jeeze, sorry about that. Don’t know why it sometimes adds all these extra blank lines.
Anonymous
12/7/2011-8:57pm at 8:57 pm (UTC -4)
Do you initially type your comments using a word processor such as Microsoft Word?
MetsFan4Decades
12/7/2011-11:04pm at 11:04 pm (UTC -4)
No.
For most of these though I was cutting and pasting. Only thing I can
think of is there were transparent characters that = carriage returns
that I couldn’t see.
SaltyGary
12/7/2011-9:24pm at 9:24 pm (UTC -4)
Now Niese is on the table… “Mets being very aggressive” per the tweeters.
wanny
12/7/2011-9:54pm at 9:54 pm (UTC -4)
i don’t have a problem shopping Niese. For now he’s just serviceable and I’m not sure his ceiling is so high. If they could get a few pieces, including one or two with high upside, they have to at least put their toes in the water.
I do like his guts, though. He and Gee impress me with their ability to rebound from bad innings (unlike Pelfrey).
I don’t see the benefit in shopping Ike b/c I can’t see a great return coming for an unproven guy who just missed most of a season.
SaltyGary
12/7/2011-10:02pm at 10:02 pm (UTC -4)
Yea on the same page. I think ike has the potential of being the poor mans Olerud.
wanny
12/7/2011-9:54pm at 9:54 pm (UTC -4)
i don’t have a problem shopping Niese. For now he’s just serviceable and I’m not sure his ceiling is so high. If they could get a few pieces, including one or two with high upside, they have to at least put their toes in the water.
I do like his guts, though. He and Gee impress me with their ability to rebound from bad innings (unlike Pelfrey).
I don’t see the benefit in shopping Ike b/c I can’t see a great return coming for an unproven guy who just missed most of a season.
Anonymous
12/7/2011-10:02pm at 10:02 pm (UTC -4)
I like the idea of trading Niese honestly. Only for a great return though…
Anonymous
12/7/2011-11:23pm at 11:23 pm (UTC -4)
Just catching up after work. Shopping Niese, OK. Listening maybe on Ike, doesn’t cost anything to listen.
This to me has all the earmarks of Sandy and his boys now fully knowing what they have in the cupboard after seeing them perform for a year. With this knowledge he’s now ready to consider all pieces as chips for which he has a better first hand knowledge of what an equitable return for those assets would be.
I don’t want Ike to go and Niese could be replaced but I think it is great to see Sandy work his craft now that he knows what the talent pool truly is.
Anonymous
12/7/2011-11:30pm at 11:30 pm (UTC -4)
Fredo speaks! – it’s a business…
well, yeah. “These are the lives we have have chosen for ourselves..” true words spoke by another great Miami resident.
Still were one of my fav mets but you are the enemy now. Good luck, break a leg….it shouldn’t take too long.
Anonymous
12/8/2011-12:24am at 12:24 am (UTC -4)
Fredo…hmm. Are you going to kiss Reyes on the lips?
BTW Why are you taking Reyes’ departure personally? Why are you so bitter about it? Reyes would have been foolish to turn down Miami’s contract.
Anonymous
12/8/2011-1:51am at 1:51 am (UTC -4)
Hey GG, nah I’m just having some fun. It was the best thing for him to do for himself and his family. The dollars were to big.
It does crack me up this boo hoo routine he’s pulling today about not feeling wanted. Gimme a break. When A-Rod wanted to stay with the Yanks what did he do? He went against Boras and picked up the phone and called Cash directly to re-ingite talks. If Reyes really wanted to stay or hear an offer from the Mets he could have manned up and called Sandy imo.
I just went for the g-father references tied to another Miami character. I thought about going Scarface as in “you know what a Hassa is Jose?” or “did you ever even exist at all?”. Just having some fun in the face of all the sky is falling crapola I’ve read at other places. Just crazy.
Anonymous
12/8/2011-2:00am at 2:00 am (UTC -4)
Oh, I almost went for the “you know how to whistle… just put your lips together and pucker reference” for the kiss. But Jose’s not my type, gender wise :p
MetsFan4Decades
12/8/2011-2:32am at 2:32 am (UTC -4)
That’s:
“If you want me just whistle. You know how to whistle don’t you? Just put your lips together and blow.”
To Have and Have Not – great movie.
Anonymous
12/8/2011-6:20am at 6:20 am (UTC -4)
I thought that perhaps you wanted to meet Reyes in a garage on Saint Valentine’s Day.
MetsFan4Decades
12/8/2011-12:52am at 12:52 am (UTC -4)
LOL
Anonymous
12/7/2011-11:41pm at 11:41 pm (UTC -4)
Wow, Ronnie on Hot Stove on Reyes, “can he play 900 games over that 6 year contract”. ouch.
Anonymous
12/8/2011-12:31am at 12:31 am (UTC -4)
BS on the “they loved me”. It was all about the money. always was. And maybe some leaning toward wanting to go to Miami due to location.
all the wining and dining and love would have meant nothing if their best offer was 5/85. and sure as hell they would have shopped that all over (including back to the mets).
And nonsense that “the mets never made an offer”. I find it hard to believe in the conversations with the agents the mets limits weren’t put out there. And like the note says above, once he got that 6th year (that the Mets supposedly said up front they would not do) no real reason to go back to them.
Did Sandy just not want Jose? Maybe, but much more likely IMO he wanted him, but only up to a certain contract amount.
But, bottom line, he is gone and I don’t care a hoot about him anymore. Much more interested in looking at future moves to improve the team.
And don’t trade Neise. guy has legit stuff, and I bet is about ready for it to all click.
MetsFan4Decades
12/8/2011-12:56am at 12:56 am (UTC -4)
I heard Sandy’s explanation of what transpired Friday night through Saturday afternoon. He said they had the framework of a deal to the point where he thought they just might get it done. Miami came right in and topped it.
Reyes says there was no offer. I’m beginning to wonder if his agent conveniently didn’t tell Reyes about the Mets proposal, took it back to Miami who promptly trumped it – then told Reyes about the Miami one only. I’m sure Reyes winds up in Miami anyway but that ‘they never made an offer’ statement has one or the other lying.
Either way, it’s done. Might be the best deal we couldn’t make. Time will tell.
SaltyGary
12/8/2011-1:40am at 1:40 am (UTC -4)
Ya know one of the comments was “they showed up with a Miami Jersey with my name printed on it”. Ya know what the Mets had many printed with his name on it, not hard to do. He wanted the money and a different situation. If I was him I would be all over it. Hour plane ride home to the DR, lots of cash and a opportunity with a team on the upswing.
SaltyGary
12/8/2011-1:47am at 1:47 am (UTC -4)
Rubin also tweeted a great Sandy quote: “Maybe I should of sent him a box of chocolates”.
MetsFan4Decades
12/8/2011-1:51am at 1:51 am (UTC -4)
I laughed right out loud with that one. Kind of dry sense of humor implying he didn’t see the need for hugs as a negotiating tool.
Anonymous
12/8/2011-2:02am at 2:02 am (UTC -4)
I wonder if that’s because life and free agency is like a box of chocolates, you’ll never know what you’ll get?
Great line from Sandy. Don’t know why I’m in movie reference mode the past 2 days.
Anonymous
12/8/2011-1:54am at 1:54 am (UTC -4)
I’m waiting to read, “Jose pops hammy boogying down at South Beach night club”.
Anonymous
12/8/2011-2:40am at 2:40 am (UTC -4)
haz, you raised something I thought of the other day. One of the selling points on Miami was the whole south beach party scene. Well, one of the knocks (rumors?) about reyes for years was too much partying. Will be interesting to see if that part is true!
though it looks now like Hanley may not be around to cause trouble with him.
quick other thought. If they do trade hanley for prospects and don’t sign anyone else of note, how much better are they really?
MetsFan4Decades
12/8/2011-2:45am at 2:45 am (UTC -4)
Hard to partay every night unless he leaves his wife and kids behind in Long Island.
Well, they just picked up Buehrle and last I looked they were still in on Wilson.
The knock originally was even if they signed Reyes and Pujols, they still had questionable SP. Adding Buehrle helps. Adding Wilson would be a plus.
Losing Hanley? IDK – ’11 was his worst year, right? Who knows what type of numbers he puts up this year. I’m hoping he stays there, and his pouting affects his play on the field.
Anonymous
12/8/2011-3:02am at 3:02 am (UTC -4)
if he managed to party in NY, should not have a problem with it down there.
Pretty sure these guys don’t live like we do!
Animalovr4
12/8/2011-11:49pm at 11:49 pm (UTC -4)
i dont like being lied to but that is exatcly what sandy alderson did to me and many other disapointed mets fans . or should i say former fans . how dare he tell us he tried to sign reyes when the the truth was he never tried to begin with ,only now when he cant lie anymore does he finally admit he never offered reyes a contract . is this the kind of man we can trust? if frank cashen were around and wilpon didnt jump into bed with bernie things would be different but they are not . i havent been this down on the mets since they traded tom teriffic seaver .well good luck mets your going to need it , but your not going to con me or break my heart anymore , i have had it. so now sandy can go on telling all the lies he feels like.-former fan
Anonymous
12/9/2011-12:05am at 12:05 am (UTC -4)
sorry you feel that way. But Sandy isn’t the Mets. The players on the field are.
and he pretty much did what eh said. He wanted reyes to come back, and had budget parameters that he would offer. Once the marlins blew past that, he left. Pretty straight forward.
And this “no offer” stuff is blown out of proportion. So what he did not write it on official letter head. He discussed with the agent, who knew pretty much exactly what they were prepared to do.
All players leave eventually. Just need to find some new favorites.
Mr North Jersey
12/9/2011-12:57am at 12:57 am (UTC -4)
I guess your definition of “tried” is different than mine. My understanding was that there was an effort made in conjunction with Greenberg to try and meet what Reyes wanted. Both Alderson and Greenberg have said as much. So there is that. If losing a player makes you stop being a fan then how much of a fan could you have really been to begin with.
Hope you eventually realize no player is worth giving up on your team.
Anonymous
12/9/2011-1:13am at 1:13 am (UTC -4)
Still wouldn’t have counted unless Sandy stood outside Jose’s window with a boombox over his said repeating $90M for 5…
MetsFan4Decades
12/9/2011-3:43am at 3:43 am (UTC -4)
Guess he should have bought that 5lb heart box of chocolates.
Sorry…but I guess I’m one of the few that found that comment by SA funny.
Anonymous
12/9/2011-4:04am at 4:04 am (UTC -4)
Oh totally agree, it was great. I just can’t believe all this mourning by Mets fans still many days after the fact. Maybe since I accepted that he was gone ’round about this past June so I’m past it. I don’t know, it’s just me as I’ve gotten older I don’t get all wrapped up once a players moved on of his own volition, It’s not like Seaver where they traded him away at a time when controlling players was far less costly and you could see Seaver was visibly upset and choking back tears at leaving. Reyes moved on his own after the Mets were kicking around up to 90M for him. I don’t blame him for taking more it was the right thing for him. But this harping amongst many in the fan base just because the offer wasn’t officially made in writing, please it’s comical and absurd to me. I root for the uniform, if a player doesn’t want to be here and takes more money and leaves then he’s in my rear view mirror and thanks for the memories.
Did you hear Sandy today when asked by Kevin B how far short he fell on Albert Pujols. He said jokingly his offer was 225 and a box of chocolates. Great stuff, imo.
Darknova306
12/9/2011-4:24am at 4:24 am (UTC -4)
Get ready for this to be a recurring theme all season. Whenever Reyes does anything positive in a game, whenever the Mets get a poor performance by their leadoff hitter, whenever the Mets get a poor performance by Rubin Tejada, the lunatic side of this fanbase is going to explode with all this whiny ridiculous drivel. Twitter especially has become a nightmare of ignorance, irrational whining, self-pity, declarations of “I’m done with this team” every 10 minutes without actually leaving as a fan.
If someone’s gonna whine about this event and say that they’re done being fans of the team, I wish they would just leave already. Get out so the real adults can talk about sports.
Anonymous
12/9/2011-4:11am at 4:11 am (UTC -4)
MF, I found Sandy’s crack quite funny. Then again, I am a sarcastic (aging quickly) sense of humored snarker myself. And yes, too many fans are going way too far into the pity party punch.
And Haz, I agree. A team can wine, dine and sleep with the guy around the clock, and if another GM walks up, punches him in the head, kicks his dog and insults his mother, but offers $20,000,000 more on the deal, guess who the player signs with?
it is ALWAYS about the money 1st.
I also did not care that much. Jose was fun, had his flaws, and there are other players on the team to root for. One guy leaves, it just means another guy gets a chance.
And right now, they are 2 SPs away from being at least respectable/competitive (think, like through June last year) in 2012.
Anonymous
12/9/2011-4:15am at 4:15 am (UTC -4)
Ditto to all dat.
Anonymous
12/9/2011-4:38am at 4:38 am (UTC -4)
Hopefully, those starting pitchers could be making their cameos at the end of 2012. Harvey and Familia.
Anonymous
12/9/2011-5:51am at 5:51 am (UTC -4)
Walter Johnson, Cy Young and a box of chocolates????????