Well things just keep going down hill for the Mets since Johan’s no-hitter.
First on Saturday Dickey only provides a shutout, and gives up hits. Now on Sunday, Niese pitches like Dizzy Dean and a newly called up rookie gives up a run. What’s next, having to rely on the offense to win a game?
Niese was masterful through 6 innings. 6 hits, 1 walk and 10 strikeouts. It was rumored that he was dizzy before being removed after the 6th. That saves Terry from another questionable bullpen move. In the 7th inning rookie Elvin Ramirez gave up the first runs of the series on a few hard hit balls but Byrdak and Frankie were able to make easy work of the rest of the game.
Offensively the Mets again took the lead early and were able to tack on late. In the first inning Torres doubled, Wright walked and Duda singled to bring in a run. Murphy also singled but Timmy T held Wright at 3rd to bring up a bases loaded one out situation for Ike… and well Omar Q grounded out for the 3rd out. To leave the score at 1-0.
The Mets added two more in the bottom of the 4th when Niese hit one of his two singles and was followed by a bomb from the Kaptain. Kirk would be involved again in the 6th as he would single to drive in Quintanilla who had walked and was followed by a Thole walk. Andres Torres would then hit a seeing eye triple down the RF line to plate 2 more to give the Mets a 6-0 lead.
The Amazin’s are now 31-23, 8 games above .500 and are tied atop the NL East with Washington and Miami. Their 31 wins puts them 2 behind the most in the NL and only 1 behind the most wins in the AL as well. They look to sweep the series tomorrow in a 1:10 match-up with Loshe squaring off vs uh… Gee I think. Here’s your Gameday Link.
53 comments
srt
6/3/2012-11:42pm at 11:42 pm (UTC -4)
Really good bounce back outing from Niese.
Too bad he had to be removed after the 6th.
According to Terry on the post game, after running the bases in the bottom of the 5th, Niese reported he felt ‘funny’ and he had that elevated heart rate thing again. Same thing that happened to him in TX.
When it was time to start the 6th, he said he felt fine.
When Terry came to the mound in the 6th, they said they were watching him very carefully and Niese was pacing around – not his usual demeanor. Niece pronounced himself fine. Terry said after he finished the inning, he wasn’t taking any chances and removed him.
He’ll be checked out tomorrow to make sure all is fine.
Took the series from the Cards. Now let’s go for the Sweep.
Mr North Jersey
6/3/2012-11:44pm at 11:44 pm (UTC -4)
The last time the NY Mets were in 1st place at any point after June 3rd in a season was Sept. 19, 2008. Obviously a long time ago.
Great game by Niese as he pitched the Mets to a season high 8 games above .500. Listening to ESPN just rave about his curveball inning after innings was great. WFAN reported by the way that Niese was pulled due to fears of an elevated heart rate.
It seems this team just always has a different person stepping up with the bat every night as they fight to win games. If it’s not Baxter it’s Hairston. If it’s not Hairston then it’s Torres. Tonight the Mets got big contributions once again by Capt Kirk.
It has been fun ride so far and I am just going to continue enjoy this for all it’s worth.
Positives has to be Niese and his performance on top of him getting 2 hits as well. Also a hat tip to Torres throwing the runner out at home to end the inning when the game was still close.
Lets go for the sweep 2morrow.
LGM!!!
gategem
6/4/2012-12:23am at 12:23 am (UTC -4)
The nine games after tomorrow will be a lot of fun.
Hazmet
6/3/2012-11:54pm at 11:54 pm (UTC -4)
Just found out Bill Maher is a partial owner. I detest Bill Maher, and I detest few people. I know he’s oh so loved by many but I cannot stand him. I actually just sent an e-mail asking if I can get a refund on my last 3 games of tickets. I know the answer is no but if I had known he was 1 of the 12 minority partners there is no way I would have purchased any tickets to put one dime in his pocket. I know he’s referenced as “funny man Bill Maher” but I find him to be a completely biased closed minded ass. They actually just ruined my season. Adieu.
gategem
6/4/2012-12:21am at 12:21 am (UTC -4)
I believe the Wipons have contributed to causes that are the antithesis of what Bill Maher stands for. But when it comes to money everything else falls by the wayside.
Stickguy
6/4/2012-8:04am at 8:04 am (UTC -4)
I will just add him to the list of owners I don’t care about.
NJstuckinTX
6/4/2012-8:16am at 8:16 am (UTC -4)
I’m with you 100%.
NJstuckinTX
6/4/2012-8:18am at 8:18 am (UTC -4)
Well, not bailing on the team due to it, but me no likey Bill.
TRS86
6/4/2012-8:28am at 8:28 am (UTC -4)
Yeah I am sure there are other owners of the Mets that I would like even less than Crappy Bill IF I knew their stances as well. Thus I would rather not even know. It’s like actors. I try to forget what they say when they are not on the big screen.
SaltyGary
6/4/2012-10:03am at 10:03 am (UTC -4)
He makes his living by being biased, he’s not trying to hide it. You don’t have to like his politics, but it’s no different then if someone like Rush Limbaugh, or Sean Hanity picked up a share. Just be thankful that someone that grew up a Mets fan that had the means put up a big chink of money to help our boys out. No reason to boycott or have a sour taste in your mouth it really has now negative impact besides seeing him on TV once in a while catching a game.
kingman 26
6/4/2012-10:28am at 10:28 am (UTC -4)
Sorry kids, there is a HUGE difference.
Maher’s show is clearly focused on comedy. Almost always. It’s on HBO, it is not portraying itself as “news” and while I can see religious people being offended, and while he is of course biased, he absolutely is not on the same level as people like Beck or Limbaugh. Not when one considers facts.
He doesn’t pick on college girls like Limbaugh and Imus, he is not a rabid racist like Rush, and he does not set himself up to appear like some sort of statesman/patriot, like the millionaire chicken hawks of the right do (Limbaugh, Beck, Savage, Coulter, Imus, Hannity, O’Reilly, and on and on).
Not saying Maher is always right, not by a longshot, but he doesn’t pick on kids and he doesn’t view himself as a statesman. Obnoxious and biased as he is, he is also very self-deprecating on a regular basis.
SaltyGary
6/4/2012-10:38am at 10:38 am (UTC -4)
My comparison was based on making money to catering to a specific political persuasion and not content.
I watch Maher a decent amount and pay attention to what the those right wingers say.
Where I would say Maher is above those other guys is he attempts and usually succeeds to get prominent GOP voices, and not shills like Hannity gets. He won’t usually agree with the GOP’er but he gives them a very fair voice on a very liberal show, and it is always respectful which is really nice in the political age.
As for the Right wingers you listed currently the message is focused on some real hateful things. I don’t like it one bit, but people do and it’s a successful strategy.
Unbiased news, isn’t making money. Look at CNN’s ratings (closest to the center for cable) and NPR is probably the most center on the radio for news content and they are begging for money every day.
kingman 26
6/4/2012-10:45am at 10:45 am (UTC -4)
I completely agree.
Maher has Ann Coulter on and defends her and gives her a fair shot. Nothing like that happens with the right wing media haters.
I understand that Maher’s position on religion can offend many, but he is absolutely just not the equal of utter hypocrite haters like Rush and Beck, and not even remotely close to as vicious, dishonest, and utterly irresponsible.
Beck’s rantings are absolutely full of half-truths and outright lies.
That’s just not true about Maher.
TRS86
6/4/2012-10:49am at 10:49 am (UTC -4)
Can we seriously switch subjects here? If not I am sure I will say something I regret.
Prismo
6/4/2012-10:52am at 10:52 am (UTC -4)
I promise you, you’ll say something you regret. lol
kingman 26
6/4/2012-11:07am at 11:07 am (UTC -4)
Fine with me, but remember, I certainly did not start this.
TRS86
6/4/2012-11:23am at 11:23 am (UTC -4)
You didn’t. However, I don’t think what Salty said was out of line. The only people you compare him with are guys like Rush and Hannity. It just depends on which side of the hill you are rolling down as to which one is the most extreme both are out of control with a lot of trees and bumps in the way.
Prismo
6/4/2012-11:34am at 11:34 am (UTC -4)
I’m creating a scale of idiotic media pundits.
At the top is Rush vs Maher:
These guys are totally self-obsessed and never think they’re wrong about ANYTHING. Don’t you dare disagree with either, because they’ll treat you like you’re a bumbling idiot who doesn’t have an elementary school degree. If you treat them as circus clowns doing the news, they can be tolerable to the right people.
Next down on the list is Hannity vs Olbermann:
Still largely self obsessed, but you could probably have somewhat of a real conversation with them without being treated like a child. They still think they’re always right, but they’re ever-so-slightly less d-baggy about it (very slightly).
And finally, Scarborough vs Stewart:
A former Republican congressman and a liberal media member, who actually have the ability to listen to reason and logic. I’m not sure if most Republicans hate Joe because he’s on MSNBC, but he’s still definitely a Republican. However, he doesn’t mind criticizing the party when they’re wrong, and Jon Stewart does the same of Democrats. They’re definitely still both biased, but probably cool guys to have a beer with over some intelligent political conversation.
Now, being that I am clearly the ultimate authority on this topic, you should all shush and quietly nod your heads in total agreement.
Prismo
6/4/2012-11:39am at 11:39 am (UTC -4)
Oh, and of course Tucker Carlson vs Ken Rosenthal.
For obvious bow-tie related reasons. No one takes either one seriously.
Mr North Jersey
6/4/2012-11:46am at 11:46 am (UTC -4)
Dude this was a good discussion. Passion without insults. Why stop it just cause you can’t control your ability to say something you will regret?
I say Boo to you.
kingman 26
6/4/2012-11:48am at 11:48 am (UTC -4)
Yeah, but Bill has rightists on his show and treats them respectfully. Do Rush or Beck do that?
And bigtime LOL on the Tucker/Rosenthal comment.
kingman 26
6/4/2012-11:53am at 11:53 am (UTC -4)
Wow, Mr N said “this was a good discussion. Passion without insults.” about a political discussion I was involved in!
Maybe I AM finally growing up!
SaltyGary
6/4/2012-12:13pm at 12:13 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t think you can have an reasonable conversation with either Hannity or Olbermann. I think I would rather jump off a bridge.
Maher has tons of GOP senators and conservative pundents and even has people like Grover Norquist on regularly. He will try and get his liberal “oscar moment” time to time when debating, but I have never seen him bully or be disrespectful. It is that reason why he does get so many high profile figures. If he was a Rush or Ed Shultz type, significant people of the opposite persuasion wouldn’t be caught dead on their shows.
Rachel Maddow hasn’t been brought up yet. I don’t get a chance to watch her much but she is one of the political commentators that really works hard to provide evidence and research into her analysis. She is completely liberal in terms of her content but she approaches the content seriously without all the cheap venom tactics and is very respectful to her guests.
kingman 26
6/4/2012-2:10pm at 2:10 pm (UTC -4)
Gary, this is the difference between Maher and the rightists—no matter what anyone says, Maher cares about facts.
And he also has people like Ann Coulter on his show.
Glenn Beck could care less about how factually wrong he is about almost everything.
Prismo
6/4/2012-10:51am at 10:51 am (UTC -4)
I’m a pretty big liberal, and while I think Maher can be really funny at times, I also think he’s a total d-bag.
I’d much prefer if Jon Stewart was the liberal media Mets fan buying stock in the team!
gategem
6/4/2012-11:04am at 11:04 am (UTC -4)
I love Jon Stewart and from what I understand he’s a personal friend of Bill O’Reilly whom he refers to as the thinnest fat boy at the fat boy’s camp when describing O’Reilly’s program on Fox.
kingman 26
6/4/2012-11:29am at 11:29 am (UTC -4)
Bill Maher and Ann Coulter are good friends and have been for years.
I think we all take these folks way too seriously.
They are all VERY rich from blabbing to a certain audience, none of them have served a day in the military, they are all just obnoxious entertainers, and nothing more.
.
Prismo
6/4/2012-11:36am at 11:36 am (UTC -4)
Them 1%ers sure do love each other!
They’re laughing at us little people bickering about them, while they’re all swimming in their pools of gold coins.
kingman 26
6/4/2012-11:44am at 11:44 am (UTC -4)
That’s pretty much right on the money.
I also have read that supposedly Hannity and Olbermann are friends and Hannity has largely expressed pretty much exactly what you are saying here, which I totally agree with.
I do watch Maher 1-2 times a month, largely for the comedy and also to see what certain guests of his have to say. I don’t miss it when Ann Coulter is on; their interactions are priceless.
But seriously, since the aftermath of the 2000 election and 9/11, for the last decade I have avoided the TV/major newspaper “news” like the plague except when something huge is happening like an election or a war.
It’s ALL BS today.
I read left/center/right on the Internet. And books are good.
SaltyGary
6/4/2012-12:25pm at 12:25 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t avoid the cable news I try and listen to both to understand the angle they are trying to present their message. As for political focused news I don’t think it can be unbiased anymore. The 2 party system and the amount of money that is fueling the sides is making it impossible to pass legislation or to report it without a spin/angle. And unfortunately I think there is still a ways to go before rock bottom.
If you look closely at Romney’s/Obama’s personal convictions I bet they only differ on less than 20% of the issues. Party affiliation and money are creating the differences. Imagine what term limits and lobbying caps can do. Who has to change those rules? The ones that are negatively affected by them. Something will give but there is still plenty more room for absurdity.
kingman 26
6/4/2012-12:29pm at 12:29 pm (UTC -4)
Gary I agree 100%.
And Romney WAS for health care when Gov of MASS, and like most GOP candidates today, he must move to the far right to gain the support of the far-rightists who have taken control of the party’s nominating procedure.
Romney, McCain, Clinton, and Obama are virtually the same.
TRS86
6/4/2012-12:58pm at 12:58 pm (UTC -4)
Which is exactly why even with a great opportunity the Republicans will lose the election. When Romney is the best you can find then you are basically just tanking the election to set yourself up for the next one.
kingman 26
6/4/2012-1:23pm at 1:23 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed 100% TRS.
I cannot see an Electoral Map scenario where Romney wins right now, and every poll agrees.
SaltyGary
6/4/2012-1:30pm at 1:30 pm (UTC -4)
I am actually so confused about the Romney selection. The GOP did an amazing job blocking most of what Obama wanted to do and dominated the message that he is wrong for the country. They rode the tea party and got many of their people in. McConnel’s message of the number one priority is to get Obama out was perfectly executed.They did everything right except produce the right candidate. During the whole time how did they not get people lined up and ready. Instead you had a bunch of nut-jobs, people that just wanted to sell a book, a guy more worried about creating a movement in Paul and a Rich guy that people can’t stand. I am just baffled.
What that tells me is a guy like Mitch Daniels or Paul Ryan are just too damn smart and know this is the type of election that can destroy the candidates future prospects if they lose. It is going to be UGLY.
kingman 26
6/4/2012-2:06pm at 2:06 pm (UTC -4)
It also is a couple more things.
In order to win primaries in places like Iowa, where the only people voting are some of the most far-right people in the US, you have to run FAR to the right, and pretend to believe asinine things that complete fools like Bachmann believe in and you have to be like Gingrich and criticize child labor laws and say that Obama is a horrible Muslim Marxist and you have to pretend to be ultra-right, which Romney is NOT and never has been. Many GOP folks have way too much self-respect and decency to do that.
It is time for a national primary day, which would end the utterly ridiculous nature of a system where a handful of rightists in Iowa (who are all white and of one religion) have a ridiculous voice in the choosing of candidates. If you had a national primary day, this would help the GOP hugely, as it would help wrest control from the ultra-right, who represent a tiny sliver of America.
You also have to be a complete servant of a handful of ultra-powerful ultra-wealthy interests (Kochs, etc) to have a chance of winning.
Hence, the only real GOP candidates you get are totally amoral egomaniacs (Romney and Gingrich), utter wackos (Bachmann and Santorum), folks desperate for attention (Paul and Trump and Cain), etc.
The system is completely broken, and never will be fixed until people start voting for third parties.
The Dems and the Repubs are the left and right wings of one party which works for corporate America and the banks and is trying very hard to turn us into a cross between Victorian England and Pinochet’s Chile, which is their goal.
Decent, honest, truly patriotic politicians know there is zero chance for change in today’s system without ending corporate campaign contributions and the legalized bribery called lobbying.
TRS86
6/4/2012-2:22pm at 2:22 pm (UTC -4)
OK so as I said, enough of this as it has to be a turn off for most Mets fans to read any of this crap from any of us.
kingman 26
6/4/2012-2:36pm at 2:36 pm (UTC -4)
OK, sorry chief. I was responding to Gary.
No more.
Gary, you have my email address so go ahead and email me anytime if you wish to discuss it further.
Ceetar
6/4/2012-11:27am at 11:27 am (UTC -4)
who’s to say he didn’t?
Gotta watch tonight though. Don’t see how he doesn’t mention Johan.
Stickguy
6/4/2012-8:05am at 8:05 am (UTC -4)
on a side note, as nice as it is to look at the standings and see the Mets with a – in the GB column, it is doubly sweet to see the Phils in last place, even if they are only 3.5 back, it is still last place!
Yes, I am petty.
srt
6/4/2012-8:36am at 8:36 am (UTC -4)
‘Yes, I am petty’.
Consider yourself in good company then when it comes to the Phillies.
No one felt sorry for us in 2009 with all those injuries, least of all Philly fans.
TRS86
6/4/2012-8:18am at 8:18 am (UTC -4)
You know, I don’t usually call into radio shows but listening to MLBN in the mornings they talk about the Mets great start and how they are doing it with pitching and the offensive numbers don’t add up to where they are in the standings.
Can you get off your lazy ass and look at some stats once in a while. These three games have been great for pitching but the offense has bailed out the pitching all year. While the pitching is next to last overall the offense is 4th in the league in RS, 5th in BA, 3rd in OBP, 4th in OPS, 3rd in OPS+, 3rd in doubles, all while using the second most players in the league at 37. Can we give some damn credit to Hudgens and the Mets hitters?
srt
6/4/2012-8:37am at 8:37 am (UTC -4)
Lazy, as you said. Nothing more than them reading a few articles about the negative run differential and taking that ball, running with it.
TRS86
6/4/2012-8:40am at 8:40 am (UTC -4)
That’s fine on the negative run differential but hell at least get it right as to why. If the Mets had gotten timely pitching to go with their hitting they might have the best record in the majors. I think their BA/RISP is also near the top and their BA/RISP2/O is at the top.
Stick
6/4/2012-9:54am at 9:54 am (UTC -4)
FIRE HOJO!
And they are only 2 wins off having the best record, so if you could just take back 2 of the obscene meltdowns form the pen, then they would have the best record.
oleosmirf
6/4/2012-10:22am at 10:22 am (UTC -4)
Well the Mets are 7 games over .500 and are 2 games back of the best record in baseball, despite being outscored by 6 runs on the season.
That is a pretty interesting stat, no?
TRS86
6/4/2012-8:49am at 8:49 am (UTC -4)
I guess I will take it if so but the Mets must have transferred their old bad luck to my fantasy team. I am in last place in a 10 team league yet I have scored the 4th most points. So in a head to head league everyone steps up their game to play me? LOL. The other teams vs me have scored 172 points more than the next closest team in points given up and about 400-500 more than the average. That has to be the unluckiest thing I have ever seen. Even this week I squeak out a win and it takes me having the 2nd highest amount of points in the league for the week. I beat Matt’s team who was 3rd in points. Seriously?
Mr North Jersey
6/4/2012-9:37am at 9:37 am (UTC -4)
So was there any strategy behind the Mets putting the tarp on the field early yesterday thereby not allowing the Cards to take BP and then removing it later at which time the Mets took BP or was it simply just to protect the infield?
What I couldn’t find out was if it was actually raining hard when they put the tarp on.
oklahoma met
6/4/2012-10:30am at 10:30 am (UTC -4)
Seems as if this will be raining on the parade, but what in green Hades are the Mets to do with Ike? He’s just an automatic, rally killing out right now. How much of a hole does this put TC in after telling him he won’t go down? I guess it may not be a huge issue as long as they continue to win, but man he’s sad (in a literal way, i feel bad for him) to watch right now.
Nice to see E-Ram make his debut. Maybe I’m attributing it to him because I WANTED to see it…but holy cow that poor kid looked nervous.
Dang that came post comes off negative. I swear though, I am excited about this team.
LGM!
srt
6/4/2012-10:54am at 10:54 am (UTC -4)
I’m thinking they’ll be re-thinking that whole ‘we’re not sending Ike down’ shortly. As soon as Bay and Tejada are back and the positions are more nailed down, they’ll have a little more freedom to do some shuffling if they send Ike down.
They’ll still be missing Turner and Baxter off the bench though so not sure how it will play out.
Duda to first and Bay/Torres/Kirk in the OF? Who is the 4th and possible 5th OF then.
Terry said he wouldn’t move Duda out of RF so who then would be the possibilities for first base? I highly doubt they’ll move Murphy there.
Prismo
6/4/2012-10:56am at 10:56 am (UTC -4)
Hairston is 4th OF and I guess they’d probably call up someone to be a 5th OF (don’t ask me who).
TRS86
6/4/2012-10:58am at 10:58 am (UTC -4)
You would still have Hairston right? And not sure if they will keep up Jordany when Tejada returns.
oleosmirf
6/4/2012-11:38am at 11:38 am (UTC -4)
Assuming they send down Davis, I would think our bench would be:
Nickeas, Quintanilla, Satin, Rottino, Hairston although I would prefer to see Fred Lewis replace Satin. Problem is 40 man space is very limited. Obviously, if Davis is still here, Satin is gone…
srt
6/4/2012-11:40am at 11:40 am (UTC -4)
You guys are right. I forgot about Hairston.
Only excuse I’ve got is I’m having a problem keeping track of the starting 25, let alone the 40 man roster – with all these injuries and call ups.