During last night’s debacle we had a conversation in the Real Dirty Dugout about issues with the 40 man roster and when oh lord when Ike will ever be sent down. While talking with Oleo I decided to take a look today and give my opinions on any possible solutions to the mess we are in. Keep in mind that negativity after a game like last night will be at an abnormal high and rational thinking low.
First lets look at the 40 man roster itself.
Pitchers: Johan, Dickey, Niese, Gee, Young, Batista, Hefner, FFF, Rauch, R Ramirez (15 Day DL), Parnell, Byrdak, E Ramirez, Mejia (AAA), Familia (AAA), Carson (AA), (Beato on 60 Day DL).
IF: Davis, Murphy, Tejada (15 Day DL), Wright, Cedeno (15 Day DL) , Turner (15 Day DL), V-Spun, Quintanilla, Satin, Lutz (AAA), Havens (AA), Flores (A+)
OF: Kirk, Torres, Bay (15 Day DL due back today), Hairston, Duda, Vinny, Baxter (15 Day DL), Lagares (AA 23 years old), Puello (A+ 21 years old)
C: Thole, Nickeas, Johnson (AAA)
Quick analysis, the Mets don’t have a lot of fluff here. The most obvious names in my mind are Josh Satin and Robert Carson. These guys while they aren’t bad depth, I don’t think we would miss them in the long run. Satin is 27 years old and has never really been more than a poor man’s Nick Evans. Carson is a little more troubling as he is a big LH but he is 23 years old and never pitched well above A- ball until this year in AA. To his credit this is the first year they have placed him at reliever. Carson would obviously be the more dangerous option.
One thing that sticks out is how many of the guys who are on the 40 man who are not only not the radar for this season but may not even be ready by July of 2013. I am sure other teams have this problem but we have two guys in high A ball, and three in AA. Flores, Lagares, Pulleo, and even Familia are not likely candidates until 2013 or maybe even 2014 yet we are stuck with them on the 40 man so call our 40 man our 36 man.
In other news Jason Bay is set to return today and will most likely take Josh Satin with him. At that point it might be necessary to DFA Satin and place 32 year old LHRP Justin Hampson on the 40 man.
Hampson has pitched well in AAA especially to LH. They should then DL Rauch and activate Hampson. Whether Rauch has been suffering from injury or suckitude he needs some time off and the Mets can ill afford being down another guy in the pen. Hampson is also a guy that can pitch multiple innings as he has done so on plenty of occasions before in the minors this season and would take some pressure off of Perpetual Byrdak. I honestly think the only reason they have not DL’d Rauch is looking at the current 40 man there is no one to bring up. You can’t bring up Mejia or Familia at this point and the rest of the 40 man roster pitchers are either here or injured assuming they didn’t want to go down the Carson road again.
So moves for today, Jason Bay comes off the DL, Rauch heads to the DL, Hampson’s contract is purchased and placed on the 40 man and Satin is DFA’d. OK so what’s next?
Ike has to go. I don’t care if he says AAA won’t help at this point it would help the Mets. I know this year is about building for the future but you have Zach Lutz in AAA who is hitting .307 with a .413 OBP in AAA who can play a little 1B. Bring him up for Ike and go with an odd rotation with the hot hand allowing Bay, Hairston and Lutz to see time vs LH.
What that still doesn’t solve is the issue at SS until Turner, Cedeno or Tejada return and looking through the system it’s easy to see why they drafted one. There’s nothing there until you get to the lower levels. It is time for Sandy to do what he is known for and supposed to do. Go find some undervalued talent that can play SS. As we said in the dugout Omar Vizquel isn’t dead yet but he’s still playing for the Blue Jays. I am not saying him but there has got to be options available. If it requires losing Carson to do it or placing Baxter on the 60 Day DL you can’t have Jordany as your backup SS.
Also, giving credit where it is deserved a poster over at MMO (EvenFlow) suggested the Mets check in on Derrek Lee. Alderson has said the Mets have some money to spend and according to reports the semi-retired Lee is keeping in shape and still looking for the right team. His RH bat and solid glove at 1B could be exactly what the team needs. Would a pro-rated 5 million do the trick?
So lets sum it all up.
Bay up, Hampson up and on 40, Satin DFA, Rauch DL, trade for a backup SS, sign Derrek Lee….
SANDY GETZ IT DONEZ PEICE A CAKEZ!!!
90 comments
NJstuckinTX
6/6/2012-10:32am at 10:32 am (UTC -4)
I think that is probably the easiest way. I would prefer to kill a couple birds with one stone, but it certainly isn’t the easier way to address. Would like to see some of the prospects traded, easing up the glut for a RH corner OF spot and moving Duda to 1B with Ike going down.
If Ike recovers and comes back, push Duda back to the OF and you cut one of the OFs we have (Bay) and roll with it from there.
TRS86
6/6/2012-10:40am at 10:40 am (UTC -4)
The problem with that idea is who are you trading? Those two extra OF? Havens? Carson?
NJstuckinTX
6/6/2012-11:01am at 11:01 am (UTC -4)
I think Familia, Carson, Valdespin to start. I’m not familiar enough with the minor league guys to know who is a definite keeper over others, but there is where I would start.
And as Wanny mentioned in the dugout, you don’t trade away a Mora for a Bordick. That said, people aren’t trading players for the Mets flotsam. It’s a fine line that is being toed here. And with so many still theoretically in the playoff hunt, there are less options, meaning costs are higher. Hate to just grin and bear what the team has, but that may be the only way to address this to save the prospects.
TRS86
6/6/2012-11:08am at 11:08 am (UTC -4)
The problem is that you are most likely selling low on all those guys and getting nothing in return of quality.
NJstuckinTX
6/6/2012-11:15am at 11:15 am (UTC -4)
Fair enough, but considering the need by the Mets and lack of sellers, you’ll be overpaying for just about anything as it is.
TRS86
6/6/2012-11:24am at 11:24 am (UTC -4)
I am just saying would you rather trade those guys for junk or just DFA guys like Satin and Carson? For now anyway.
Bryan
6/6/2012-10:34am at 10:34 am (UTC -4)
I was actually thinking that the spot freed up by Satin being DFA would go to Beato, as soon as tomorrow since it’s likely that Hefner will be optioned after his start tonight, unless they want to continue with 6 starters, which probably isn’t a great move with Ramirez on the DL and Rauch banged up.
TRS86
6/6/2012-10:41am at 10:41 am (UTC -4)
I think they should keep “rehabbing” Beato for a while longer just because if nothing else he isn’t taking up a roster spot and he gets to develop a little more at the same time.
Bryan
6/6/2012-10:58am at 10:58 am (UTC -4)
That’s a good point, although I believe they only have 30 days until they have to activate him, so they can’t do it forever, but they can buy another couple weeks and he certainly could use more time in the minors to develop (ditto for Mejia).
If they can find the room on the 40, I do agree with you on Hampson. Based on performance, he’s the most deserving Buffalo pitcher to get a promotion, and they could use a second lefty. Perhaps they’re just waiting on Edgin to be ready as their second lefty.
TRS86
6/6/2012-11:10am at 11:10 am (UTC -4)
I would think they can find room on the 40 man. You got to DL Rauch though. They can’t go through an entire series basically 2 men short.
Bryan
6/6/2012-10:40am at 10:40 am (UTC -4)
Also, Lutz is on the DL again and I believe he’s out at least 2 to 3 more weeks. But it is time to re-evaluate Ike. With Bay coming back you have a surplus of outfielders, and moving Duda to 1B will help with that and make your lineup better since sadly at this point Bay as a direct replacement for Ike is an upgrade.
TRS86
6/6/2012-10:43am at 10:43 am (UTC -4)
Yeah, I just noticed that. Oh well, hell with that.
srt
6/6/2012-12:24pm at 12:24 pm (UTC -4)
Lutz on the DL again? I didn’t know that.
IMO, I think it’s probably time we moved on from Lutz and Valdespin.
TRS86
6/6/2012-10:49am at 10:49 am (UTC -4)
This fits here:
Terry Collins on the SS issue:
““Omar Quintanilla is here. There is no such animal right now. We don’t have any space to bring anybody else. Our roster is maxed out”
Gotta go find someone and then make a tough decision. We know it isn’t V-Spun.
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-11:16am at 11:16 am (UTC -4)
unfortunately, I think David Wright has to be the backup SS until Cedeno or Tejada return.
No point wasting a spot on a backup, when we desperately need bullpen help.
before today’s game, I would bring up Bay for Davis and Hampson for Satin (DFA) and Carson for Rauch (DL)
Then depending on how Hefner performs today, I would call up Rob Johnson for either him or Carson.
GMS
6/6/2012-11:02am at 11:02 am (UTC -4)
The problem with adding Hampson or anyone else to the 40 man is if they are a temporary stop gap, they will likely have to be DFA’d to clear room later (for Beato). Why not bring up a filler guy like Chuck James or someone like that for now? James is a former big leaguer, lefty arm, can throw innings, and won’t get claimed on waivers when they cut him later (and if so, who cares). Also – this may sound a little desperate but could work: Reese Havens was a SS until a couple of years ago, and he’s on the 40 man and healthy for the moment. Can we bring him up for a couple weeks until Cedeno (or Tejada) are back. Can’t imagine he’d do worse than Valdespin at SS yesterday (DW would have made both of those plays btw).
TRS86
6/6/2012-11:07am at 11:07 am (UTC -4)
True about Hampson but I don’t think they should rush Beato back and they can’t keep Hefner and Batista in the pen anyway.
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-11:53am at 11:53 am (UTC -4)
why not?
Batista is being forced into a much larger role now that Rauch and Ramirez are both out so Batista is essentially our “7th inning guy”
TRS86
6/6/2012-11:58am at 11:58 am (UTC -4)
That’s the point, if you DL Rauch then you don’t have to put Batista where he doesn’t belong.
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-1:18pm at 1:18 pm (UTC -4)
the person they call up is likely to be used in a lesser role than Batista no?
I cant see Terry using anyone from Buffalo in a tough spot over Batista unless they prove it at the MLB level…
srt
6/6/2012-12:25pm at 12:25 pm (UTC -4)
I think Batista is our long man guy – and a hedge bet for Young who is probably not going to pitch out of the 5th inning for awhile.
I suppose you could do that with Hefner as well, though.
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-11:09am at 11:09 am (UTC -4)
because Justin Hampson IMO is a better option. This is a guy that had 2 consecutive sub 3.00 ERA seasons with SD, but had his career derailed by injury.
He is 32 years old, so it’s not like he is a prospect either. I just feel he is more deserving and more likely to find success…
TRS86
6/6/2012-11:11am at 11:11 am (UTC -4)
I think he could stick too. You don’t need Hefner and Batista so one goes and there’s your spot for the time being. Then IF Beato comes back and is healthy you can check on Ramirez squared then.
Bryan
6/6/2012-11:23am at 11:23 am (UTC -4)
I’m sure Hefner will be optioned right after the game today, barring something drastic happening.
TRS86
6/6/2012-11:29am at 11:29 am (UTC -4)
But who is getting called up for him?
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-11:24am at 11:24 am (UTC -4)
I would be a little hesitant to DFA Hefner, only because we need someone to start in the event Young or another SP goes down.
Familia is nowhere near ready and it’s a bit too soon for Harvey so the Mets would have to use either Mejia or Batista, further weakening the pen.
Now obviously if he gets bombed tonight, the thinking changes, but I do believe that if you DFA Hefner, someone will claim him…
TRS86
6/6/2012-11:32am at 11:32 am (UTC -4)
I think I was referring to the spot on the 25 man. As for the spot on the 40 man I think we addressed that.
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-11:35am at 11:35 am (UTC -4)
well we need the 40 man spots, so who other than Satin would get DFA? Carson?
Stick
6/6/2012-11:35am at 11:35 am (UTC -4)
I think Hefner can be optioned, so they won’t lose him, but at this point I am not sure of anything.
TRS86
6/6/2012-11:37am at 11:37 am (UTC -4)
DFA Satin and place Rauch on the DL as well.
TRS86
6/6/2012-11:34am at 11:34 am (UTC -4)
Looking at the AAA SS leaders the Dodgers have a couple of vets who are hitting well in Tony Abreu and Luis Cruz. Neither should cost much and you might could even net one of them for a guy spare part on the 40 man.
TRS86
6/6/2012-11:35am at 11:35 am (UTC -4)
Also Brandon Hicks with the GM’s buddy the Beane. Hey I am sure he owes Sandy a favor or 50.
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-11:41am at 11:41 am (UTC -4)
The SS problem can easily be fixed with Wright with Rottino moving to 3rd, but Terry is holding firm to the idea that Murphy cannot be moved 2B and that Duda cannot be moved from RF.
Right now the major problem is the bullpen and I don’t think Elvin or Carson can be used in high leverage situations so another addition has to be made.
TRS86
6/6/2012-11:42am at 11:42 am (UTC -4)
Come on Wright is not a serious option for SS. Last thing you need is Wright getting injured on a DP turn. I guess you just can’t ever take Q out.
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-11:50am at 11:50 am (UTC -4)
he can play an inning or two there if need be. He’s athletic and heady enough to turn a double play without forgetting to jump or get out of the way.
TRS86
6/6/2012-11:57am at 11:57 am (UTC -4)
I can’t see how he would be better at SS than even V-Spin.
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-12:30pm at 12:30 pm (UTC -4)
he can field a ground ball, something Valdespin clearly had difficult with last night.
Stick
6/6/2012-11:37am at 11:37 am (UTC -4)
hey, I knd of like the Havens option. now that is thinking out of the box!
the problem with the prospects is why I thought they would make more trades last off season, and why they will have to make a bunch this year (mid or end of season). Too many prospects that aren’t quite ready, and they will have a bunch more after this season I believe.
so, some of those guys have to go, meaning it is a perfect year to trade a prospect for a piece you need now.
TRS86
6/6/2012-11:41am at 11:41 am (UTC -4)
Like I said the problem is that right now none of the trade guys that you are looking at are performing at a high level and likely wouldn’t net you anything of MLB value or even MILB.
Like I said for now I would rather lose Carson and Satin and then see what happens later.
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-11:47am at 11:47 am (UTC -4)
the problem is he is batting worse than Ike in AA…
GMS
6/6/2012-11:53am at 11:53 am (UTC -4)
Maybe Hodgson can get him straightened out a bit. He came out strong this year for a week or two before fading, and he’s always been touted as having a big league bat. Besides, they just need to have someone to field a few grounders in spot duty at SS for a couple weeks more than they need a big-time PH.
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-11:57am at 11:57 am (UTC -4)
i’m not so sure Havens is even capable of playing SS adequately.
The only other SS they could use is Wilmer Flores and even he is no longer playing the position, not to mention all the reasons why Flores should not be anywhere near the big leagues.
They are either going to 1) use Wright 2) use Valdespin or 3) never ever take Quintanilla out
Stick
6/6/2012-12:14pm at 12:14 pm (UTC -4)
I think #3 is the most likely answer in the short term.
Stick
6/6/2012-12:18pm at 12:18 pm (UTC -4)
SS isn’t even a depth issue IMO (meaning, you can’t blame Sandy for leaving them too thin).
The new starter is the 4th man on the depth chart, so Spin is #5. how many teams have that many depth options without having to go way outside the 40 man, and probably the organization? And I shudder to think what is available on the FA pile at this point!
thinking about what to do with the pen gives me a headache.
but, at this point, I am sure Ike has to go down. And I would bet (99%) that the only thing keeping him up is the utter turmoil the rest of the roster is in at the moment. And of course, needing at least 1 guy (well, 2 with DW) that actually know how to field their positions!
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-12:28pm at 12:28 pm (UTC -4)
I think Terry has made it very obvious he plans to keep Ike here, especially since there are no hitters on the 40-man to replace him with.
Bay for Satin and Beato for Rauch (DL) is probably what Sandy is going to do although I would prefer to see what Hampson can do before activating Beato…
srt
6/6/2012-12:28pm at 12:28 pm (UTC -4)
Can’t say I disagree much with anything here.
For those that want to complain about depth, we’re on our 4th SS with Q. You really can’t expect to have more than that piled up in the minors.
The BP has been aptly renamed to the ‘BullPain’ by AA folks. Seems appropriate.
I’d just assume they DL Rauch now and get that BP back to full strength. One of the reasons we might have lost that game last night was b/c of being 2 men short in the BP.
srt
6/6/2012-12:33pm at 12:33 pm (UTC -4)
Good read, TRS.
have several prospects down there they’re trying to protect on the 40 man. At what point does it warrant either dropping some of those or packaging a couple in a trade?
I see no reason for Carson or Satin to be on the 40 man. I can only assume that was done for depth purposes in the early season. Neither one impresses me. For that matter, I’m starting to move away from Valdespin ever being a viable part of this team. At best a utility player, IMO. Never ever want to see him at SS again. He’s had some big hits this year but he’s still pretty undisciplined at the plate.
They asked Terry last night about trading for a SS. His reply was no, ‘I’m comfortable with Q at SS’. That’s nice but we’ve basically got no backup. To repeat myself, that should not be Valdespin.
Ike….I don’t even know what to say here. Whether or not going down fixes his mechanics/swing isn’t even the issue anymore. It’s how much the black hole of his bat is killing the lineup.
TRS86
6/6/2012-1:14pm at 1:14 pm (UTC -4)
What I would like to know from our minor league guys is if those 2 OF are actually seen as part of the future.
Carson and Satin can go but that is not bringing back anything. Those are guys you just DFA and see what happens. The rest of those guys, there is not much fluff there and really nothing valuable to trade either. I think trading Familia would be a mistake unless it was for something long term, Vspin isn’t getting you a used bag of balls after last night and having no real competent defensive position or plate discipline. Lutz is on the DL and Havens is hitting Ike like. I wouldn’t trade Flores either. Thus to me you just cut Satin and Carson and see what needs to be done following.
Stick
6/6/2012-1:37pm at 1:37 pm (UTC -4)
well, the low hanging fruit is to 60 day DL anyone you can (that means baxter, even if it could ultimately cost him a week at the end), and then DFAing guys that are likely to clear (Satin), but if they don’t, you can live with the pain.
SaltyGary
6/6/2012-1:05pm at 1:05 pm (UTC -4)
Just quickly scanned some rosters for trade bait and this is what I came up with below. There seems to be some overpaid veterans (except for Overbay) that could probably be had if the team ate some cash. At this stage would Wilpon be willing to add to payroll? I don’t think so but with so many holes right now, something is going to have to give. My feeling is if they let the team suck it up and they slide the anti-FO sentiment will get a lot worse. Trades are hard to make right now but if they made a move, I feel casual fans will start to get some more juice. Johan woke people up and its time to capitalize. This team has the heart to do it.
1st
Kevin Youkilis
Mark Reynolds
Justin Morneau
Casey Kotchman
Aubrey Huff
Lyle Overbay
Jason Giambi
Inf
Maicer Izturis
OF
Josh Willingham
SaltyGary
6/6/2012-1:06pm at 1:06 pm (UTC -4)
I didn’t bother looking at pen arms. Those probably won’t go down till the trade deadline since they are always a commodity.
TRS86
6/6/2012-1:10pm at 1:10 pm (UTC -4)
I think there is complications with a lot of those.
Willingham will be moderately expensive. Youk and Morneau will be very expensive. I am not sure Giambi wants out or they want him out. Reynolds, I mentioned before, is a terrible fielder and is batting slightly ahead of Ike.
To me I don’t see them trading for a 1B.
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-1:21pm at 1:21 pm (UTC -4)
I would love to see them make a move for Darwin Barney should he become available.
He’s young and wont cost a top prospect. He’s very good defensively and has a decent bat
SaltyGary
6/6/2012-1:23pm at 1:23 pm (UTC -4)
Yea most of them are money. Reynolds is the last guy I want. Kotchman and Overbay are cheap. I would love to see Youk. His skills are diminishing but I think he would fit in great.
If they are going to make a trade on a offensive position, why wouldn’t go for first basemen? They have too many outfielders, Wright is staying, there is no marketable improvement that can be had at catcher so that leave 2nd and 1st.
I don’t think they are going to trade Murph. He has no power but he is this stabilizing force in the lineup. The only way they trade him is if they need to put in a ML ready piece in for something bigger. 1st is the only position left.
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-1:20pm at 1:20 pm (UTC -4)
the best option is your current RF.
Unfortunately they don’t want to mess with him, whatever that means…
Stick
6/6/2012-1:40pm at 1:40 pm (UTC -4)
out of that crop, just go ahead and try to sign Lee.
Duda can play 1B for a couple of weeks, and it isn’t going to hurt anything in the long term. he will be fine, and it will help the team.
also, signing Lee will certainly qualify as a big message to the fans “we do mean business, and want to win” .
also, since it only costs some money, and no prospects, it in no way hurts the “build for the future” plan.
Prismo
6/6/2012-1:35pm at 1:35 pm (UTC -4)
So…I was at the game last night, stayed for entire thing.
Gentlemen, I am finally on board with demoting Ike. He looked atrocious at the plate AND on the field with that one costly play.
Also, I do not ever want to see Valdespin at SS again. I understood his weakeness was supposed to be his arm, but both errors hadn’t even gotten to that point yet! He is NOT a SS…I don’t even know what he IS.
Play defense or GO HOME.
The bullpen management was absurdly bad. I saw Young was running out of gas, but he was only at like 75 pitches (I know his limit was 85), I wasn’t sure he needed to be pulled after 5 innings. And then the “long man” Baustista comes in and only pitches two innings! Then Terry brings in Byrdak to face a righty in Zimmerman? That doesn’t even make sense! You can’t run out of bullpen guys by the 12th inning.
Not to mention that we were out of bench players in like the 8th friggin inning.
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-1:37pm at 1:37 pm (UTC -4)
how do you run out of bullpen guys?
It’s easy when you are two guys short in the pen b/c of Santana’s no-hitter and Rauch not going on the DL yet…
Prismo
6/6/2012-1:41pm at 1:41 pm (UTC -4)
Yes of course that’s the easy answer.
But knowing that, why didn’t Terry try to make Young and Bautista last a bit longer?
Even so, you can’t go into a game down two men in the pen. SOME move has to be made. It’s a BIG risk doing that, and last night showed how it failed the team (among other things).
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-1:57pm at 1:57 pm (UTC -4)
because they were taken out for pinch hitters (either directly or double switched), which helped us gain the lead.
The only thing Terry/Sandy did wrong was not call up another pitcher for the game as Satin really wasn’t needed.
That is the only real thing you can blame on them…
Prismo
6/6/2012-2:03pm at 2:03 pm (UTC -4)
Actually funny you say that – I was literally typing out that same suggestion.
Didn’t need Satin given the lack of bullpen arms. One more reliever could have been HUGE for us. Elvin was up to what like…45 pitches by the time Harper hit the walk-off?
Prismo
6/6/2012-2:04pm at 2:04 pm (UTC -4)
Also, another reason why Rob Johnson should be up instead of Nickeas. He could’ve pitched an inning lol.
TRS86
6/6/2012-2:39pm at 2:39 pm (UTC -4)
Well he could have not wasted Little Nicky with 2 outs and no one on as a pinch hitter. That could have helped later.
wannard
6/6/2012-3:14pm at 3:14 pm (UTC -4)
i would take my chances with helen keller pinch hitting before Mike Nickeas pinch hits.
SaltyGary
6/6/2012-3:49pm at 3:49 pm (UTC -4)
“How did Helen Keller burn her hand?
She tried to read the waffle iron.”
BWahahahaa
Stick
6/6/2012-1:41pm at 1:41 pm (UTC -4)
roster management in game is obviously not terrys strong suit.
wannard
6/6/2012-4:40pm at 4:40 pm (UTC -4)
was he supposed to find another relief pitcher in his arse?
this was a 12 inning game with a short pen and a depleted bench, which lacks versatility to begin with. this was not a regular game and it is unfair to criticize the manager because his roster is in shambles.
Stick
6/6/2012-4:58pm at 4:58 pm (UTC -4)
you misunderstood. I did not mean that normally he is good at it, but yesterday he seemed to have issues.
Rather, it is never really one of his strong points.
srt
6/6/2012-2:10pm at 2:10 pm (UTC -4)
Bay and Beato back; Young on paternity leave; Satin DFA.
Ike spared, for now…..
gategem
6/6/2012-3:24pm at 3:24 pm (UTC -4)
I had no idea that Young was pregnant. That would explain tiring after 75 pitches and 85 mph fastball. Forget the surgery, I once had a gf that played for her college softball team and she said its very difficult to pitch when your pregnant.
Prismo
6/6/2012-3:33pm at 3:33 pm (UTC -4)
Unfair advantage to have 10 players on the field!
gategem
6/6/2012-3:44pm at 3:44 pm (UTC -4)
BTW his wife gave birth to a girl this morning. I understand the baby weighs something like 9.5 lbs.
srt
6/6/2012-5:39pm at 5:39 pm (UTC -4)
LOL
9.5 lbs? His wife deserves a medal. Better yet, Chris something along the lines of a diamond bracelet….
Hope Mama and the little one doing well.
TRS86
6/6/2012-2:15pm at 2:15 pm (UTC -4)
Well I got one right. Satin has been DFA’d and they bought time with Young going on Paternity leave.
wannard
6/6/2012-3:04pm at 3:04 pm (UTC -4)
beato for satin was my proposed move last night. no-brainer to me.
hampson hasn’t pitched in the MLB since 2008 despite good AAA numbers. That suggests to me, without knowing, that he’s lacking velocity/stuff or something. Anyway, the current problem is not solved by a second LOOGY. A workhorse is needed.
I also proposed the idea of platooning Bay and Ike since each look no better than platoon players right now. Duda would play 1B when Ike is out of the lineup. Niewenhuis and Hairston would continue to play, as well. If Ike heats up, Torres is on notice next. Bay still rakes LHP.
Ike has performed better since being limited to RHP.
As for SS, the best move is to wait out Tejada and Cedeno. Doesn’t pay to trade a chip for a guy who won’t be in the long term plans and the likelihood of Valdespin playing that poorly again in such big spots is slim.
Trading for one of the above mediocre 1B also does little to benefit the team now. For one thing, it would require banishing Ike to the minors for the remainder of the season and that is not optimal. Otherwise, you’re trading a chip for a guy to play while Ike figures things out in AAA.
Stay the course. Build for the future, not July. Realistically, this team is not a contender this year with or without Derek Lee or even Kevin Youkilis.
SaltyGary
6/6/2012-3:51pm at 3:51 pm (UTC -4)
Yea I think Tejada has SS locked up for a while. They are not going to go back on a decision of keeping him over paying Reyes just yet.
oleosmirf
6/6/2012-3:56pm at 3:56 pm (UTC -4)
the problem is Ike can’t hit RHP either.
Hampson was injured which is why he hasn’t pitched in the major despite having success there
wannard
6/6/2012-4:35pm at 4:35 pm (UTC -4)
Hampson was cut by the Padres BEFORE he got hurt playing for Oakland in AAA in 2009. He then returned in 2010 to the Atlantic League before signing with the Mets last season.
Not sure why you are trumpeting a journeyman LOOGY with such vigor.
Prismo
6/6/2012-3:07pm at 3:07 pm (UTC -4)
Heyman says on twitter that the Mets are determined not to send Ike down.
Stick
6/6/2012-3:28pm at 3:28 pm (UTC -4)
well, I think they are wrong. and we all know what that counts for.
honestly, I want them to answer the question: “what if you keep him up all year, and he never pulls out of it”?
besides the obvious issue of hurting the teams chances at the playoffs, how the hell do you plan for next year? Bury your head in the sand, and how for a miracle cure in the off season?
At least send him down, so you can see if he can get straightened out in AAA. That should give you some more clarity.
gategem
6/6/2012-3:41pm at 3:41 pm (UTC -4)
The answer is obvious. They’re an extremely intelligent FO and when you know it all you don’t need clarity. You spend much time over at MMO and so you should have seen this trait in both their comments and authors.
srt
6/6/2012-5:41pm at 5:41 pm (UTC -4)
My prediction if Ike stays up all year…..he’s going to have a really bad year, finishing with awful numbers.
He’ll come back next y ear putting up numbers more in line with what predictions were for him coming into this year.
NJstuckinTX
6/6/2012-3:41pm at 3:41 pm (UTC -4)
If Heyman said it… bye bye Ike.
Prismo
6/6/2012-3:35pm at 3:35 pm (UTC -4)
Omir Santos was DFA’d from the Tigers…just saying…he’s better than Nickeas.
Prismo
6/6/2012-3:42pm at 3:42 pm (UTC -4)
(which isn’t saying much, Santos is pretty terrible)
Prismo
6/6/2012-3:54pm at 3:54 pm (UTC -4)
Also, I know the Mets would never actually claim him.
Okay I’m done.
wannard
6/6/2012-4:37pm at 4:37 pm (UTC -4)
“Flores, Lagares, Pulleo, and even Familia are not likely candidates until 2013 or maybe even 2014 yet we are stuck with them on the 40 man so call our 40 man our 36 man.”
Charlie Puleo? He hasn’t been a candidate for the Mets since 1982! Get him off the roster!
SaltyGary
6/6/2012-5:51pm at 5:51 pm (UTC -4)
Welcome wannard! If you want to have a avatar picture just head over to gravatar.com
wannard
6/6/2012-6:42pm at 6:42 pm (UTC -4)
Wannard is just the full name of Wanny, as in WannyBackstra. No newbie here. Just not visiting as frequently as I used to,
Saltygary
6/6/2012-6:53pm at 6:53 pm (UTC -4)
I was wondering if that was you but you were very active today. So what Dykstra goes to jail and you change your name up.