This week’s question:
What were your first impressions of Matt Harvey? What do you think he will become?
SpencerRealDirtyMet:
Just wanna preface this by asking if anyone wants some ketchup with their crow?
I think he showed his upside last night, the issue with him has been consistency and we can’t tell much about that based on one game. I still see a rich man’s Pelfrey. Guaranteed 200 innings, but better than league average.
Bryan:
He was very impressive. His stuff is real good and he definitely has a shot to be a #2 starter. That being said, you can never make too much of one performance. I have to wonder if his velocity will come down a notch or two without as much adrenaline in subsequent starts. If that happens he could get hard if his fastball is up in the zone like it was at times. Also, he did not throw nearly enough changeups, but as the booth pointed out he was willing to go inside against lefties, which was nice to see. There will definitely be some bumps along the way, but I think his AAA days are over. He’ll stick in the bigs the rest of the season and he’ll make the rotation out of spring next year and be around for a while.
Kingman26:
Harvey blew me away. He looked GREAT. Electric. I did not think he threw that hard, and watching what I saw, I was mystified at how his college and minor league stats were not better. Was he so good and so confident that he used the minors like veteran pitchers use spring training, to work on things, experiment, and fine tune?
WAY too early to tell, but Harvey made feel as though we may—MAY—have a great potential duo for years in he and Wheeler.
It’s one start, but I sure as hell cannot wait until Tuesday. Harvey looked great, and is even hitting 1.000.
Cannot ask for much more in a debut.
What did you think of Matt Harvey? Is he a future ace or just another Mike Pelfrey?
21 comments
SpencerRealDirtyMets
7/29/2012-12:02pm at 12:02 pm (UTC -4)
If Matt Harvey becomes Mike Pelfrey then that’s a win.
NJstuckinTX
7/29/2012-4:27pm at 4:27 pm (UTC -4)
Uh, no. If Harvey becomes Pelfrey, trade him now in a package for Upton.
SpencerRealDirtyMets
7/29/2012-6:12pm at 6:12 pm (UTC -4)
200 innings of league average pitching is a damn good 3 starter, and that is Pelfrey at his worst. Hell he’s had two 3-win seasons. Yes I get that 2011 was rough and he hasn’t pitched this year, but 08-10 he was among the best 40 or so pitchers in baseball.
NJstuckinTX
7/29/2012-9:29pm at 9:29 pm (UTC -4)
He was never someone who you wanted to throw in pressure. I really don’t want to compare Harvey to an under achieving pitcher. Regardless of his overall results, Pelf was under achieving.
srt
7/29/2012-12:41pm at 12:41 pm (UTC -4)
Harvey’s debut was more than I could have hoped for.
From all I’m reading, he’s not going to stay at 97-98 but that’s O.K., don’t think he needs to, to be effective.
He’s still a work in progress and as others have pointed out, he’s going to need to learn to mix in more change ups and off speed pitches to be effective.
I think his ceiling is higher than Pelfrey’s right now. A solid #2 that will give you 30-32 starts a year.
Can’t wait for Wheeler’s debut next year now.
srt
7/29/2012-12:57pm at 12:57 pm (UTC -4)
OT but I have to share.
Someone on MMO asked why on earth they brought Bay back from rehab when he wasn’t hitting at all in the minors. Valid point but you can only keep him down there for so long w/o an injury.
To which one of the core responds:
‘Well one of the theories on that was to help get the Mets out of contention so Sandy wouldn’t have to be a buyer and change the long turtle 5 year plan he prefers to have.’
I know that site and the core is anti Sandy but this is way far out there even for them.
Someone else suggested the reason FF has had yet a third setback might be his agent’s doing to prevent him from being traded away from NY before the deadline.
Oh boy….this is going to be a fun second half, isn’t it?
NJstuckinTX
7/29/2012-4:30pm at 4:30 pm (UTC -4)
I know go there to validate rational thought. If what is written is the opposite of what I am thinking, then I’m right on track.
NJstuckinTX
7/29/2012-4:30pm at 4:30 pm (UTC -4)
*now
SpencerRealDirtyMets
7/29/2012-6:13pm at 6:13 pm (UTC -4)
TRAID WRONG
Stick
7/29/2012-6:22pm at 6:22 pm (UTC -4)
I check them out on occasion for the heck of it, but most of the articles are obviously with a preset agenda, and the majority of the comments are the same few people running off at the mouth with bizarre theories. Not even worth reading.
SaltyGary
7/29/2012-7:03pm at 7:03 pm (UTC -4)
SRT luv ya but I am staying away from that place just so I don’t have to see this crap. Can we please keep it there, pretty please?
gategem
7/29/2012-8:35pm at 8:35 pm (UTC -4)
What happens at MMO stays at MMO.
darknova306
7/29/2012-8:52pm at 8:52 pm (UTC -4)
“Can we please keep it there, pretty please?”
Seconded. Whining about other fans’ whining has long since gotten annoying.
Hazmet
7/29/2012-9:08pm at 9:08 pm (UTC -4)
Ditto on all counts. We have a quorum now.
darknova306
7/29/2012-10:18pm at 10:18 pm (UTC -4)
Quorum… rum… drunk… mmmmm
srt
7/30/2012-7:39am at 7:39 am (UTC -4)
O.K. guys. Will do.
I guess I’m one of the few who finds this stuff funny, vs. annoying.
SaltyGary
7/30/2012-8:33am at 8:33 am (UTC -4)
I used to find it funny but it has gotten to a level where it is effecting the whole site and I don’t feel it is healthy discourse. By all means if someones wants to talk about those subjects here, by all means, but if not then just leave it there.
kingman 26
7/30/2012-12:16pm at 12:16 pm (UTC -4)
Te be quite honest, seeing almost all of you over there all day every day has kept me away from here and instead wasting my time at Metsblog. I will never be a regular at that home of idiocy.
MMO is a joke site, with a handful of idiot losers who dominate the comments, and while SOME articles are good, most of Joe’s are inane whining.
I hope all of you stay here.
Hazmet
7/29/2012-8:50pm at 8:50 pm (UTC -4)
Barry Bonds as a cyclist. Check out the retired Barry physique in this shot.
http://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/msn/heads_up_colorado_skinny_barry_bonds_is_cycling_your_mountains_this_summer/11291692
I’ve never been a big Barry fan and except for his sterlng strike out against Bobby Jones in the post season lo those many years ago I’d have nothing good to say. Anyway, interesting to see him in such great shape in the body type he was born in. I was actually glad to see he looks healthy and just as an ex-athelete it hopefully looks like he won’t go the way of Lyle Alzado’s ravaged body from ‘roids. Really wouldn’t wish that on anyone, at least no one in the sports world.
NJstuckinTX
7/29/2012-9:32pm at 9:32 pm (UTC -4)
Imagine the size of ha helmet…
SaltyGary
7/29/2012-11:11pm at 11:11 pm (UTC -4)
His head didn’t shrink Lol. Thanks for sharing this. It’s a real shame, he would of went down as the best in the generation and instead he is a pariah. I bet if you ask him now he would trade the HR record in for legitimacy. I don’t think he cared much for being liked but he did want to be great.