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Nov 05

Open Thread 11/05: Not Much Ado About Nothing

In possibly the only semi-relevant news for the Mets, potential reliever target Joel Peralta has resigned with the Rays, taking him off the market.

And uh some beat writer wrote a fluff piece about “at least 12 teams” being possibly interested in Dickey. Oh really, so half of baseball might want a potential Cy Young winner making $5MM next season? SHOCKER.

Nothing new on Wright or Dickey’s statuses with the Mets.

Talk amongst yourselves.

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28 comments

  1. Connor O'Brien

    I have a good conversation starter.
    Trading Wilmer Flores- Amazin’ Avenue
    http://www.amazinavenue.com/2012/11/5/3590008/trading-wilmer-flores

    1. Stick

      funny that the firewall lets this plave through, but blocks AA!

      Flores? Depends on Wright. and of course, how much interest there is.

      if Wright gets signed, and weak offers for Wilmer, keep him.

      same if wright gets traded.

      but if Wright will be here and someone will pony up for flores move him.

    2. TX

      If they are retaining Wright, I don’t see a problem with it at all. Not sure who I would go with, but the theory seems good.

  2. TX

    Woo Hooooooooooo!!!!!!

    Ah, the fresh smell of a blank slate. Much like my brain after the weekend. Blank.

    And if there is that much interest in Dickey, Sell High, Sell Often, Sell Sell Sell.

    1. Stick

      Knog is now sticking pins in his TX voodoo doll. So beware.

      you should at least add “trade wright too and go ultra lean” to this.

      1. TX

        I stand firm in my belief. And don’t you go trying to sneak in your “trade them all” scenario. Sneaky Stick. Bad dog.

      2. Prismo

        Kingman actually wants the Mets to trade Wright for some AAA players, then trade those for even more low-A players, and then trade those for a very large number of abnormally muscular babies. It’s the perfect moneyball plan.

        1. kingman 26

          LOL!

          Prismo, this comment is insane, incomprehensible, disturbing, erudite, cryptic, just plain wrong, and hilarious all at the same time.

          Bravo!

        2. gategem

          Inserting numbers representing both the perfect moneyball approach and the retaining Wright scenario into MathCAD projects the Mets will once again be relevant at the same time for either approach. ;-)

  3. Stick

    12? make it 29 if you don’t count the Mets! I doubt there is a team in MLB that would not be interested, depending of course on the return requested.

    The other interesting point being debateed these days is the concept of wholesale changes. For the most part, the discussion tends to devolve into a referendum on Sandy (Pathological liar or the anti-Christ: you decide!). But, I think that misses the point.

    If you take the comment at face value (the truth baby!), to me that means they are setting you up for the inevitable trade fo Wright and Dickey. Because even the FO knows that they only way to accomplish wholesale changes is to trade big pieces to significantly rework the roster. Re-signing those 2 of course = no change, and any changes after that are logically going to be minor part shuffling.

    Unless you think they actually are going to trade Ike and Neise? which make zippo sense to me (though I guess that should not proclude it from happening!)

    I would actually not be surprised if that wholesale comment was intentional, for the reason I stated, and the glacial pace of negotiations seems to fit the theory too. basically, setting up the end game of trading the 2 big names.

    but hell, at this point, any action would be exciting!

  4. TX

    Joel Peralta to re-sign with Rays. So much for the Mets signing any of the top 50.. :-P

    1. Prismo

      Sir, that’s the first line of my post. You beg us to make a new post, and I do, and then you totally don’t even read it!

      I’m offended and flabbergasted!

      But yeah, the Mets were never going to get him anyway. He’s getting 2 years at $3MM per. That’s like 1/3 of the Mets’ entire budget.

      1. TX

        What an egregious error on my part. I should be starbucked and flanneled for the error. My apologies…

        I was surprised by the move, considering the investment made by TB for the BP, but I guess when you have your closer making 1.5 Mil, you can afford to spend a little more on the BP.

        1. Stick

          not that much money. And if he is good, it always sets up the possiblity to trade him if they don’t need his services any longer.

  5. TX

    Any thoughts on Soria? I’d be willing to go up to 5 mil on him, injury concerns and all. Slides every one back in the BP.

    1. Stick

      I like the idea, but I am fine too with just saying screw it, and trying the cheap option. SIgning some older “name brand” guys hasn’t really worked out (though Rauch really was a lot better overall than many people think).

      if there is not much money to spend, I just assume spend it on position players, not ST deals on pen arms.

    2. kingman 26

      Outstanding idea, but it will never happen.

  6. Ceetar

    I like Ryan Doumit.

    1. Stick

      I like glazed donuts too!

      Oh, wait…

      1. darknova306

        I like beer! Hurray beer!

        1. TX

          Bacon Maple Ale. Best of 3 worlds…

          1. kingman 26

            Ooh man, bacon maple bourbon.

            Damn would that be good!

          2. darknova306

            YES! Rogue’s Voodoo Doughnut. I love that beer!

  7. Stick

    If they do absolutely nothing else (and absolutley nothing is entirely possible!) at least cut Bay.’

    what is left of the caring fanbase I don’t think could possibly stand having him back next year. even as a bench guy/9th OF.

    1. Ceetar

      Bay’s days are number. He’d have to literally show up and hit every other baseball thrown near him for a home run in the first three weeks of Spring Training to make it to St. Paddy’s day.

    2. darknova306

      Given the complete lack of outfield talent in the organization, Bay will still have to get one more shot in ST. I doubt he gets a very long leash, but the team needs to pray for miracles this season (and several seasons beyond), so everyone will get a chance to show whether or not they got magic pixie dust sprinkled on them in the offseason.

    3. kingman 26

      Bay is, without a doubt, going to start in LF on opening day, and be given probably 6–8 weeks to “get going” then he will be a platoon player.

      We have Kirk, Duda, Baxter and minor leaguers.

      Bay is going nowhere.

      1. darknova306

        “We have Kirk, Duda, Baxter and minor leaguers.
        Bay is going nowhere.”

        That’s the most depressing sports related thing I’ve read in a long time. New York Mess.

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