In 2 short years, the front office of the Mets has become a lightning rod for the anger of a portion of the fan base. But, in my opinion, many of the more “vocal” posters on some blogs seem to largely miss the point of what the job of a GM is. It is not simply doing everything possible to win a few more games in the current year.
Of course, they also scream about the team having “3 GMs” when one of them is the player development director (every team has one) and the other is just a special assistant (something else that every team has multiples of).
My take on the matter is that a key task 2 years ago was fixing the mess that the organization was in. That means organizational philosophy, player development practices, MiL system, all the good stuff that qualifies as the foundation a successful, sustainable organization is built on.
There of course was the added wrinkle of needing to downsize payroll at the same time, which certainly put a dent in the chances of competing in the interim. But I always thought, and am pretty sure Sandy basically said, that they were focused on 2014+ and looking to build an operation like the Braves, where they would have a pipeline of talent to keep the team competitive or better for many years in a row. Anything they accomplished in 12-13 was more gravy, and while they would make an attempt, it would not be at the expense of the “future”
Now, maybe I am giving them too much credit for having a plan, vs. a concept, but it is something!
Does that mean that every move they made worked out? Of course not, and some could make you scratch your head. Of course, this is largely true of every FO, we just don’t pay attention to them. And the less you have to spend, the deeper in the dumpster you have to dive. Still, there were some good acquisitions and contracts in there, along with a few duds, but even there you can see a method to the madness. Key to the “plan”, everything had a very short impact horizon. 2 year FA deals maximum, and even Franky was relatively low $ compared to the market. So basically, nothing that would constrain them going forward.
Now, what happens with Wright and Dickey this off-season will of course give better insight into the next phase of the “plan (in case any of you are not aware, the Mets are in discussions with both of these players on contract extensions. Or shopping them. Or both. Or in Aruba, drinking Mai Tais on the beach…)
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Sticking to the “plan”
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78 comments
TRS86
11/9/2012-10:12am at 10:12 am (UTC -4)
Hey way to promote yourself in the title you sneaky little thing.
I agree with at least 99% of this post.
TX
11/9/2012-10:28am at 10:28 am (UTC -4)
I thought they were partial to Sex on the Beach. Or was that Phillips?
I do agree that there was a plan. And I do agree that they have short term contracts on the brain, though I do think that is a short term thing. I believe we’ll see Ike extended in the not too distant future to a decent length contract. Wright will get one as well. The short term contracts was to help float the team to solvency.
I wonder if Sandy will have the same kindness towards the Wilpons when he is king of MLB…
TRS86
11/9/2012-10:31am at 10:31 am (UTC -4)
“The short term contracts was to help float the team to solvency.”
AND
To buy time for the players already in the organization. That is why we got Torres, the Giants would have made the deal for just Ramirez as would the Mets IF they were 100% certain Kirk was ready.
TRS86
11/9/2012-10:30am at 10:30 am (UTC -4)
I found this article telling this morning. It is on Mets.com for a reason.
Mets must consider selling high on Dickey
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121109&content_id=40221058&vkey=news_nym&c_id=nym
srt
11/9/2012-11:34am at 11:34 am (UTC -4)
La-La-La….I’m not listening…..
Seriously, I can understand the mindset but if the Mets are going for prime power bats, we all know Wright will bring back the most return, not Dickey.
I’m going on record though as wanting the Mets to extend both Dickey and Wright. Probably just a pipe dream though. From what I’ve been reading here this morning, looks like of the 2, Dickey is the most likely to be traded at this point.
TRS86
11/9/2012-11:43am at 11:43 am (UTC -4)
SRT, I am not so sure about Wright bringing back the most. Especially not in terms of offense. It is more natural for a team to trade pitching for hitting and vise-versa.
srt
11/9/2012-12:08pm at 12:08 pm (UTC -4)
Good point.
Trading Wright though, opens a hole at 3rd. Could move Murph there, but then that opens a hole at 2nd.
All depends on what the return for Wright would be though.
TRS86
11/9/2012-12:18pm at 12:18 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, I have said that trading Wright means that you have to have either Flores in mind for 2014 or get a 3B in return. NO thoughts of moving Murphy and playing V-Spin.
Actually I wouldn’t be surprised if they did trade both players for Wright to go for hitting AND pitching and Dickey to go for hitting.
Stickguy
11/9/2012-11:01am at 11:01 am (UTC -4)
to be clear, I don’t actually agree with everything the FO has done. Or understand a few moves. And yes, I expected a lot more “action”.
but you can’t overlook the key point of having to clean out the swamp and rebuild the foundation before remodeling the house.
kingman 26
11/9/2012-11:03am at 11:03 am (UTC -4)
Sorry my friend, you are drinking the orange and blue Kool-Aid precisely as Selig had planned.
I hope very seriously that you are right and I am wrong, but the actual chain of events which has taken place over the last 24 months simply does not support your thesis very strongly.
Which I imagine is the reason you do not really cite any specifics at all.
Except Franky, which, respectfully, you are totally wrong about.
No one else would have given him a deal like that to be a closer, when he had never been a successful full-time closer, nor had he ever made that much money, nor had his recent performance or market demand suggested he be given a 2-year deal for $12 million.
srt
11/9/2012-11:29am at 11:29 am (UTC -4)
Hey…I’m back. Anyone miss me?
Almost 11 days with no power. Not fun….
Still have no cable connections back. Managed to get back online using my smart phone as a router out for my laptops.
Have about 10 grand worth of damage here but so much more fortunate than some, who lost everything. I can just look across the street and see houses destroyed.
Here’s hoping that’s the last time we experience a direct hit from a hurricane.
I see we released Bay. Wow…sooner than I thought.
I’m not happy about this trading Dickey story. I heard when he managed to make it to NY for that charity dinner the other night he said they’re making progress on his contract, albeit slowly. I’m hoping that means he’s staying.
Looks like there still moving towards getting a deal done with Wright.
As far as drinking Mai Tais on the beach? After this hurricane and snowstorm, sign me up…..
TRS86
11/9/2012-11:30am at 11:30 am (UTC -4)
Holy crap am I glad to hear from you. Welcome back to the First Lady of TRDM!!!
Prismo
11/9/2012-11:31am at 11:31 am (UTC -4)
OMG 4D!!!!!!!!
We were EXTREMELY concerned about you!!
So glad everything’s ok!!
Prismo
11/9/2012-11:36am at 11:36 am (UTC -4)
Remember to try to get FEMA to help compensate for your damages! Hopefully you get something.
TX
11/9/2012-11:43am at 11:43 am (UTC -4)
WOO HOO!!! welcome back.
srt
11/9/2012-11:50am at 11:50 am (UTC -4)
Thanks guys.
I’ll tell you, that was some scary storm that night. My husband and I are in the attic in the dark during the height of the storm, trying to make an emergency roof repair to stop the water from coming in as we had damage. No power and trees are coming down left and right. Finally hubby said, ‘let it go, this isn’t worth our life’.
My section of town looks like a war zone.
From what I’m reading of FEMA, they’ve just about run out of money. Families who lost everything are being turned away. So sad….I can’t in all good conscience go after that money when so many need it more. We’ll figure something out. Can’t even get a call back from my insurance company. But our house is still standing and biggest problem is the roof. So much damage here and not enough workers…..
Hubby was teasing me saying I must be in withdrawal not being able to get to my Mets blogs. hahaha. Yup, one of the first places I hit when he configured the smart phone to use as a router was here.
Prismo
11/9/2012-12:15pm at 12:15 pm (UTC -4)
How did you find out about who won the Presidential election? Did you drive somewhere to get a paper? (not a political question, just curious about how these things work without power)
You and your hubby made a very wise decision that night! Almost all the stories I heard of people being killed by the storm happened because they weren’t secured safely in their homes.
TX
11/9/2012-12:30pm at 12:30 pm (UTC -4)
The world got a little darker, so she knew who won. ;-P
srt
11/10/2012-9:09am at 9:09 am (UTC -4)
Battery operated transistor radio, which got a lot of use over the past 10 days. I felt like I was back in the 60s.
We also have a portable gas powered generator which ran for some hours each day. Problem was, still is – gas is limited. We’re on rationing and odd/even days. So you had to use it sparingly.
I felt like I was living in the 1900s with no power a good portion of the day, no internet, no TV. Still don’t have Comcast connections back.
Ha! , TX….have to admit, as a federal civil servant there was no way on this green earth I could vote for republican this time around..
Hazmet
11/9/2012-10:30pm at 10:30 pm (UTC -4)
So glad to see you back. Don’t just give up on those FEMA dollars. You’ve paid into the system you’re due that support back. Better to you then them spending it on some FEMA conference in Vegas or something.
Just as a heads up one of my coworkers homes who’s first floor had a 6 foot+ storm surge run through her first floor said that FEMA wouldn’t deal with her until after her insurance company did their assessment first. She had to wait till a special insurance assessor came in from Dallas for some reason. I don’t kow if the same process will apply down in your area, I would think so, but just a heads up if you get that answer.
You have no idea how many people were freaking out hoping you and your hubby were OK – great to hear you’re safe and you absolutely made the right decision. Things are replaceable, life isn’t.
gategem
11/10/2012-1:01am at 1:01 am (UTC -4)
Good advice although she may have to learn the meaning of renminbi.
Hazmet
11/10/2012-9:04am at 9:04 am (UTC -4)
Our government at work:
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20121107/tottenville/staten-island-fema-disaster-center-shuts-doors-due-weather
srt
11/10/2012-9:31am at 9:31 am (UTC -4)
Thanks, guys. Most of our damage is to the roof, garage and about a dozen 100 year old that came down. Most were big – anywhere from 60-100 feet.
FEMA is a mess right now. You think they would have learned something from Katrina but doesn’t appear they have. So much mis-information going on, folks are getting 2 and 3 different stories when they contact them.
Typical gov agency – says the person who works for one of these typical gov agencies….
There’s a side street just across our road and the state showed up yesterday and roped it totally off. As best I can see there are at least 6 houses destroyed. It appears they’ve might have condemned them. Saw some woman in the street watching, hysterical crying. I look at the damage I’ve got – but my house is still standing – then I look at her. Those folks deserve that money much more than I do.
Have my fingers crossed my insurance co. will pick up part of my damage.
gategem
11/10/2012-2:45am at 2:45 am (UTC -4)
SRT, great to see you and your family survive Sandy and are safe and sound. Damage to property can always be repaired and I hope you didn’t lose much of your family history resident in the house. There are so many items of remembrance in our homes that the loss of them leaves a hole that can never be refilled.
kingman 26
11/9/2012-12:18pm at 12:18 pm (UTC -4)
WELCOME BACK!
Damn, it is good to hear from you.
srt
11/10/2012-9:34am at 9:34 am (UTC -4)
Ha! I so missed my daily TRDM fix and you guys. I think if I could have come here and kept up the past 2 weeks I would have been doing a lot better. It’s true what they say about baseball….it’s entertainment that takes you away from all life’s problems for just a little while.
I was hoping once I got back online here I would see Dickey and Wright signed. LOL, knew that was a long shot though.
Mr North Jersey
11/9/2012-12:21pm at 12:21 pm (UTC -4)
Awesome! So happy to know you and your husband are physically well. So sorry about your house damage. when you start seeing all the footage of the storm and the damage it did in some parts you will definitely count yourself as fortunate. I’ve never seen nothing like it for a storm to impact so much of the tristate as this one did.
gategem
11/10/2012-2:29am at 2:29 am (UTC -4)
It sort of puts “The New England Hurricane of 1938” into perspective. “The Blue Hill Observatory at its 635-foot elevation in Milton, Massachusetts, just south of Boston, recorded a gust of wind out of the south at 186 mph with a sustained wind of 121 mph between 6:11 and 6:16pm.” I wonder if global warming was considered the reason back then.
SaltyGary
11/9/2012-2:03pm at 2:03 pm (UTC -4)
SRT!!!!! I love you! I am so glad your back. and that you are OK
Prismo
11/9/2012-2:05pm at 2:05 pm (UTC -4)
Our first RDM confession of love.
Bravo, bravo.
SaltyGary
11/9/2012-2:16pm at 2:16 pm (UTC -4)
Oh I am sure I have professed my love before after a few too many sitting in the dugout.
darknova306
11/10/2012-1:02am at 1:02 am (UTC -4)
Great to hear from you again! Didn’t get a chance to keep tabs on today’s threads, so I’m late to the party. It’s a truly wonderful thing to hear that you and your husband made it through the storms.
Ceetar
11/9/2012-11:30am at 11:30 am (UTC -4)
I wouldn’t worry about what a vocal minority thinks about the front office just because they managed to find a place on the Internet to rant about it.
The 2005-2010 Mets and the 2011+ Mets are so vastly different in budget, revenue, and financial situation and the climate of baseball is a lot different that it’s pretty hard to directly compare them, despite everyone wanting to.
The plan is always fluid, because a rigid plan just breaks. Things change, and if certain gambits in 2011 had worked out, the plan for 2012 would’ve been more serious in terms of competitiveness.
Prismo
11/9/2012-12:24pm at 12:24 pm (UTC -4)
Hire Cerrone for GM!
He thinks the Mets trading Dickey for Bourjos (and a bit more) makes sense. Bourjos’ line from last season was .220/.291/.315. I think if the Mets did this Kingman would actually drive to Sandy Alderson’s house and slap him across the face.
TX
11/9/2012-12:35pm at 12:35 pm (UTC -4)
Slap would be an understatement.
We’ve mentioned Trumbo before, and i’m not in the know as to what they have at the high minors, but they certainly fit the bill for a possible target.
The main potential suitors would be Angels, Toronto, Texas, Maybe KC, as they can afford Dickey, Boston maybe the dodgers.
TRS86
11/9/2012-12:46pm at 12:46 pm (UTC -4)
If Grenkie goes elsewhere I think they would pay Trumbo for him for sure.
TX
11/9/2012-12:47pm at 12:47 pm (UTC -4)
Does Milwaukee have anything of need? Gomez + 2 prospects?
TRS86
11/9/2012-12:51pm at 12:51 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t think they envision themselves ready to compete next year so I don’t see a fit there.
TX
11/9/2012-12:54pm at 12:54 pm (UTC -4)
Well, the rumors of Hamilton landing in Milwaukee may sway them, if it actually happens. Frees up the need for Gomez.
TRS86
11/9/2012-12:55pm at 12:55 pm (UTC -4)
TX, I hate to be a downer but I see about as much chance of Hamilton going to the Brewers as him heading the the Mets.
TX
11/9/2012-12:58pm at 12:58 pm (UTC -4)
I’m just throw it out there for discussion.
Stranger things have happened. In fact, I see strange every time I walk down 3rd Ave up here. The oddball factor is like Turk Wendell to the 7th degree.
Prismo
11/9/2012-12:55pm at 12:55 pm (UTC -4)
Well Trumbo would be a fantastic addition to our lineup. I assume he’d play RF and would knock out ~30 homers. Also under control for 4 more years.
I don’t think the Mets would get much else in addition to him though, if anything.
TRS86
11/9/2012-12:56pm at 12:56 pm (UTC -4)
Nope that would be one for one and actually we might have to send them a guy like V-Spin in the deal.
However, adding a RH power bat that is young and cheap would be a great benefit for sure.
Prismo
11/9/2012-12:58pm at 12:58 pm (UTC -4)
Bye Valdy.
TRS86
11/9/2012-1:07pm at 1:07 pm (UTC -4)
It just seems like a natural fit IF they get desperate for pitching. They have all their eggs in and let Haren and Ervin go. They have plenty of offense without Trumbo and not enough pitching without Grenkie. I mentioned V-Spin because they lost Izturis to the Jays so they are in need of a utility guy.
wanny
11/9/2012-12:55pm at 12:55 pm (UTC -4)
of course they’d deal trumbo for dickey. trumbo isn’t any good.
TRS86
11/9/2012-12:57pm at 12:57 pm (UTC -4)
I completely disagree of course but hey most likely neither of us know for sure. However, there’s not much difference in what he has shown so far and what Ike has shown.
TRS86
11/9/2012-1:03pm at 1:03 pm (UTC -4)
Trumbo through 1175 PA .259, .302, .478, .780 118 OPS+ 61 HR
Davis through 1334 PA .252, .336, .461, .797 117 OPS+ 58 HR
kingman 26
11/9/2012-1:07pm at 1:07 pm (UTC -4)
Cerrone is a pathetic joke, which my renewed presence there over the last year has proven to me beyond any even remote doubt.
Again, he posted for 6–8 weeks that Tejada was injured DIVING into first base–dozens of people would mock him for it, and NOT ONE of the site’s authors ever edited it.
Cerrone, as a wise friend said to me, is the IDEAL official blogger of the current NY Mets—utterly mediocre, zero effort to seriously improve, no accountability, and forcing garbage on the fan base constantly.
He is truly the epitome of the Peter Principle in action.
Prismo
11/9/2012-1:09pm at 1:09 pm (UTC -4)
So…do you like Dickey for Bourjos or not?
lol
kingman 26
11/9/2012-1:12pm at 1:12 pm (UTC -4)
LOL!
Hey, I love humor.
But seriously, check out the comment I left for Cerrone over there.
He is beyond idiocy.
Dickey for Bourjos? Does he even follow baseball?
Prismo
11/9/2012-1:21pm at 1:21 pm (UTC -4)
Oh lord. Are you ChestRockwell?
kingman 26
11/9/2012-1:45pm at 1:45 pm (UTC -4)
Maybe.
But if I am not, I can say with certainty that he has brought a bunch of new readers here recently, and some commenters as well.
kingman 26
11/9/2012-1:10pm at 1:10 pm (UTC -4)
Prismo, Cerrone regularly posts things like this which would get him laughed off any comment board.
The Mets would NEVER consider this, any more than they would consider trading Ike or Niese without a massive return which they won’t get.
Cerrone is a bigger joke than the Mets themselves.
srt
11/10/2012-9:39am at 9:39 am (UTC -4)
If they did this, I’ll drive Kingman to SAs house myself.
TRS86
11/9/2012-12:54pm at 12:54 pm (UTC -4)
What about Baltimore? They could technically be a fit for Wright and or Dickey.
Ceetar
11/9/2012-1:51pm at 1:51 pm (UTC -4)
Bourjos and Trumbo would be the type of package you’d expect for Dickey actually. I can’t seem them doing that though.
kingman 26
11/9/2012-1:59pm at 1:59 pm (UTC -4)
They are the type of package YOU would expect for Dickey.
They are nothing close to what should be obtained for a pitcher who just had that year and is being paid $5 million next year.
In their three full seasons, Trumbo and Bourjos have combined for 93 BB and 397 K.
Their CAREER OBPs are .302 and .301.
And they’d be coming to Citi.
Ceetar
11/9/2012-2:05pm at 2:05 pm (UTC -4)
their careers are very small, hence the point of trading an older player for younger ones with potential and under control. One has good power, the other has good defense. both would be extremely helpful to the Mets. Both have shown flashes of talent but need refinement. Dave Hudgens has a track record of helping guys be a little more patient which could really help both of them.
Dickey will never have more value than right now. Even if he reverts to 2010-2011 Dickey which was very very good, his creeping age will never go back down.
The Mets aren’t out of it in 2013, but if they’re prioritizing the future that’s roughly what the picture looks like.
kingman 26
11/9/2012-2:32pm at 2:32 pm (UTC -4)
Well, I guess my thoughts are that we already have MANY terrible offensive players.
I am admittedly biased towards starting pitching and I want to keep Dickey, as I believe he will still be good in 2-3 years. Not 2012 good, but 2010-2011 good.
I also feel that he can be a great mentor/adviser/influence on a rotation which might consist of Harvey/Niese/Wheeler/Gee by the end of next year.
I know we need new everyday players; I just would rather trade Wright for them than Dickey, primarily because I do not think 7/125 starting at age 31 can possibly turn out well.
Ceetar
11/9/2012-2:47pm at 2:47 pm (UTC -4)
I doubt Wright gets that much.
I’d rather keep Dickey too. Outfielders, particularly right-handed ones, are probably the easiest thing to find, but I don’t want to go into 2013 with stop-gaps either, I want at least 2, preferable 3, guys out there with real potential. Kirk and Duda probably have ..some..but..
kingman 26
11/9/2012-3:37pm at 3:37 pm (UTC -4)
Well Ceetar, it is nice to agree.
Prismo
11/9/2012-3:45pm at 3:45 pm (UTC -4)
^ weird
kingman 26
11/9/2012-4:18pm at 4:18 pm (UTC -4)
Prismo, my time at Metsblog has made me appreciate pretty much everyone here much, much more.
That, and the fact that that guy Rockwell has brought some folks over here from there, has gotten me back on track with posting and commenting here more. I feel bad for my absence, which will not recur anytime soon.
And I hope you are around more as well.
The comment community here remains unparalleled in the Met blogosphere, and I really appreciate that perhaps more than ever.
It is funny—right now Metsblog is primed for exactly what happened when we started this place—there are a few dozen smart, funny people who enjoy great debate and who constantly criticize Matt and his colleague clowns—if one of them had the motivation, they could create a really fine blog if they all left there. Matt doesn’t bother with the comment section enough anymore to ban people en masse as he did with us.
Prismo
11/9/2012-2:01pm at 2:01 pm (UTC -4)
No, but…I don’t want Bourjos at all on this team. Honestly I think Kirk can hit for a .291 OBP with a SLG of .315 and play excellent CF defense.
Ceetar
11/9/2012-2:16pm at 2:16 pm (UTC -4)
yeah, it’s not my ideal either, although Bourjos 2011 was much better, and in actually more games than he played in 2012, but I think it’s a rough approximation of what the package would look like, which is just random speculation because I’m not a GM talking to Sandy Alderson. Maybe one guy a little more established and one guy a little rawer.
You’d probably add in a prospect outfielder from the Mets and get an infielder or pitcher prospect back in this case, since you’re taking two of their outfielders.
Either way, I’m not really expecting Dickey to get traded. The Mets are not desperate nor in a hurry to do so. They’re establishing value and “playing chicken” in terms of negotiations i all.
Q-Rod
11/10/2012-10:59am at 10:59 am (UTC -4)
Especially since they no longer have Hunter.
Prismo
11/9/2012-2:25pm at 2:25 pm (UTC -4)
In non-Mets news, why does everyone value Zack Greinke so highly? He’s had anxiety problems in the past that should worry any big market team. But moreso, just look at his stats since he won the Cy Young in 2009!
ERAs of 4.17, 3.83, and 3.48 the last three seasons. And a lifetime ERA of 3.77. Why is he regarded as an ace because of one excellent season 4 years ago?
I read the other day what his camp was asking for, I forget exactly, but it was a big number. At least an AJ Burnett-like number.
That’s not to say he’s bad, because he isn’t. He’s an above average starter. A good #3. Guess who had a better ERA and WHIP than Greinke last season? Jon Niese.
kingman 26
11/9/2012-2:34pm at 2:34 pm (UTC -4)
Well, he is only 29, and has been good but not great.
But just to warn you, I want to trade Niese even less than I want to trade Dickey!
Starting pitching rules.
Ceetar
11/9/2012-2:55pm at 2:55 pm (UTC -4)
he’s better than ‘a good number 3′. he’s a very good pitcher that’s pretty consistent and about as durable as any pitcher can be and has a great K/BB rate. He was merely good in 2010 and 2011 but he was amazing in 09 and very good in 08 and 07. His FIP is always better than his ERA, which at this point probably doesn’t mean much but it does suggest he’s not getting lucky.
I’m not overly worried about his anxiety issues. Rather a guy that’s aware of an issue and taking steps than one that’s ignoring it or unaware.
Prismo
11/9/2012-3:09pm at 3:09 pm (UTC -4)
Oh boy, WE GOT A SABERGEEK HERE.
Actually, why don’t you check out his xFIP which accounts for how many HRs he should’ve allowed. Lifetime ERA: 3.77. Lifetime xFIP: 3.62. Sorry, not seeing your shocking difference there.
Ceetar
11/9/2012-3:25pm at 3:25 pm (UTC -4)
you’re undervaluing that 3.77 ERA I think, especially since it factors in that crappy 2005-2006. 3.42 since then.
Also xFIP normalizes home run rate, which is why it’s higher than FIP. But he’s managed to outperform that consistently, except for 2011. Which was weird, because he seemed to strike out roughly everyone that year.
So that suggests maybe he’s getting a little lucky with home runs but he’s getting unlucky otherwise. perhaps that balances out in some way, but having a pitcher reliably be in that 3.5-4ish range is pretty valuable.4.01 ERA was average in 2012. probably somewhere 4-5 WAR range just shy of “All-Star” level. Fangraphs has his 2012 at $22.8 (which I don’t really think means anything)
srt
11/10/2012-9:45am at 9:45 am (UTC -4)
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/mets-gm-alderson-dials-talk-article-1.1199863?localLinksEnabled=false
This article just annoys me. It’ had better be rumor. They can’t possibly be thinking about trading both Niese and Gee’
‘The concept of moving Dickey stems from the Mets’ rotation depth, and the temptation to deal from strength. This week, Alderson has also mentioned the possibility of moving Jon Niese and Dillon Gee (team insiders say that Niese is the least likely to be dealt), saying that he did not want to part with any of those pitchers, but must consider doing so.’
The only strength we really have right now is SP. We really have no idea what Wheeler will bring once called up and Harvey – even though he looked great last season once called up – might struggle a bit in his first full season. So trading Niese at this point would just be ridiculous, IMO.
Stickguy
11/10/2012-9:52am at 9:52 am (UTC -4)
put it in the category of broad conceptual talking. And when your team sucks, everyone has to be available.
so if nothing else, it is a not so subtle message to the GM world that they are taking offers!
srt
11/10/2012-10:52am at 10:52 am (UTC -4)
Jeeze…trading Dickey and Wright and Niese and Gee and whoever else….there won’t be any kind of ‘Met brand’ left. It’ll take that much longer for the team to have any kind of identity back.
SaltyGary
11/10/2012-1:17pm at 1:17 pm (UTC -4)
I personally can’t see trading both Dickey and Niese but I can see one of those guys and Gee and I think they would be fine with that.
wanny
11/10/2012-4:32pm at 4:32 pm (UTC -4)
i didnt interpret that quote to mean they were considering trading more than 1 starting pitcher.
TX
11/10/2012-5:08pm at 5:08 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed Wanny. I read it to mean anyone was tradeable, for the right deal. Which is like saying my kitchen table is made of wood or water is wet.