Yesterday Mets C.O.O took time out from a honorable deed – serving the victims of hurricane Sandy at the United Methodist Church in Far Rockaway to talk to the press about the status of contract negotiations with Mets stars David Wright and R.A Dickey. And here is what he had to say.
“We hope to have a resolution,” Wilpon said. “And you know what? Part of that resolution might be that we get deals done with both of them or one of them. Part of that might be that they both come back and play for us next year. They’re both under contract. This is not a free-agent situation. This is not an arbitration situation. They’re both under contract. We have all the flexibility in the world with that.
“Or Sandy [Alderson] could decide that, gee, we trade one or both of them. That’s not where we’re at. Right now the process is ongoing. And I think that’s the best way to characterize it.”
Note to Jeff, I know this is pretty much posturing and trying to send veiled messages to both Wright and Dickey’s agents. I expect that you know that your “Q” rating is not high amongst Mets fans, and by your talking about these contract talks you make a beleaguered fan base more disenfranchised. When you make these comments you come across as “meddling” and that Sandy Alderson doesn’t have “total autonomy” when negotiating contracts . Trust me I think it would do all parties here ( except for the media that is) a favor by just referring all questions that are related to the rebuilding of this team to Alderson.
Just remember what former Mets co-owner, Nelson once said about Jeff Wilpon.
“Mr Jeff Wilpon has decided that he’s going to learn how to run a baseball team and take over at the end of the year…. Run for the hills boys I think probably all those baseball people will bail …. Jeff sits there by himself like he’s King Tut waiting for his camel.”
So far it seems like Mr. Doubleday may have been on to something.
And with that said… HERE COMES THE INFAMY !!!!!
Mets alumni celebrating a birthday today includes:
Mets hitting coach from ’92-’96, Tom McCraw is 71 (1941).
Utility infielder from ’80 ( and again in ’87) Bill Almon is 60 (1952).
Shortstop from the ’92 season, Dick Schofield is 50 (1962).
Middle reliever from the ’99 season, Dan Murray is 39 (1973).
The New York Mets signed free agent starter/reliever, Tom Hausman of the Milwaukee Brewers on November 21, 1977. This was the Mets very first foray into free agency. I think M.Donald Grant and his “puppet G.M.” , Joe McDonald could have done better.
The Pittsburgh Pirates signed spot starter/middle reliever, Andy Hassler of the New York Mets as a free agent on November 21, 1979.
The Oakland Athletics signed spot starter/middle reliever, Dave Telgheder of the New York Mets as a free agent on November 21, 1995.
The New York Mets signed free agent reserve outfielder, Steve Bieser of the Montreal Expos on November 21, 1996.
Mo Vaughn rarely ever speaks in public. This is probably because his mouth is always full of food !!!!
65 comments
kingman 26
11/21/2012-8:28am at 8:28 am (UTC -4)
One other reported quote of Jeff’s is:
“The second preference is probably to keep them and have them play out the season. The third preference would be to trade them.”
???
So, risking getting nothing a la Reyes is a better option than trading them now?
Or is the gamble here that they both have terrible seasons and will re-sign for less after next year?
To the best of my knowledge, I think it is possible Jeff did not even attend college—he did not play ball, is not educated, and is basically inheriting the team.
To all those who think there is a “PLAN” in place and underway, I really have a great, GREAT deal on some subprime mortgages I think you might love, and there is a bridge near where the Nets play which I can get you great financing on. Wake up my friends. Richard Nixon owns the team.
HAPPY THANKSGIVING everyone!!
HobokenMetsFan
11/21/2012-9:01am at 9:01 am (UTC -4)
“The second preference is probably to keep them and have them play out the season. The third preference would be to trade them.”
This is all the evidence that anyone needs to know that the Mets WILL screw this up. Sure….lets keep them and either trade them midseason (when their value is diminished because the acquiring team cannot receive draft compensation for them if they depart via FA), or pull another Reyes and come up with 2 additional supplementary picks which are years and years away.
Face it folks, as fans of the Mets, we are screwed until the Won’tpons sell the team, or Jeff is barred from making any meaningful decisions.
Dark times.
kingman 26
11/21/2012-9:06am at 9:06 am (UTC -4)
But again, I do not think they are screwing up—this is carefully crafted PR to begin laying the groundwork for at least one of them being gone.
Really though, keeping them through the season and letting them go for nothing a la Reyes would be beyond belief, even for them.
It would confirm everything negative everyone has ever said over the last few years.
And, as I have said, it would definitely make 2014 the year for Met fans to replay the actions of late 1970s Giant fans in the Meadowlands with boycotts, ticket burnings, etc.
Seriously, I just found out that Jeff did not attend college—this is frightening. Not that people without college educations are incapable; not at all—but he is an HEIR–he has done NOTHING to even TRY to qualify himself for this job.
Dark times indeed.
HobokenMetsFan
11/21/2012-9:19am at 9:19 am (UTC -4)
Keeping them and losing them for nothing but draft picks would certainly be beyond belief, but do you really expect the Mets to act any differently? Isn’t this EXACTLY what this organization has done (in one way or another) time and time and time again?
kingman 26
11/21/2012-9:35am at 9:35 am (UTC -4)
Yes. I do think it is possible, largely because they can have the best of both worlds, which is to maximize 2013 ticket sales with Wright and Dickey, clear fan favorites, without committing themselves to one extra cent beyond 2013.
Not sure I can believe they would do this with both players though.
Would be something if they did.
boldib
11/21/2012-10:59am at 10:59 am (UTC -4)
The brilliant scion’s college education is neither here nor there. Many a twit has roamed the halls of higher education. The flip side of this is if he HAD gone to college he, undoubtedly, would go to Yale and become one of the boula boula cheer leaders or something.
But, as we all know, he was born on 3rd base….you know the rest.
Re. his ill-advised comments – what’s with the “all the flexibility in the world” bullsh-t. I’m Wright, Dickey and their representatives, that pisses me off. It doesn’t surprise me that Fred spoils his son with a MLB team for Xmas. What amazes me is that he lets his son anywhere near a microphone.
Literature is filled with fools born into money. Good reading too.
kingman 26
11/21/2012-11:29am at 11:29 am (UTC -4)
While of course what you are saying is largely true, I looked it up and Hal Steinbrenner went to Williams and earned a Masters in business from the U of Florida—that is, most definitely, the norm for people in this type of situation.
Sure there are twits in higher education, especially the kids of the successful, but my guess is that Hal Steinbrenner MIGHT be more qualified with his years at excellent educational institutions than Jeff Wilpon.
Even James Dolan earned a degree in communications, which one might argue could be relevant to his career.
Not even making the effort of attending college (and Fred having Jeff earn SOMETHING) shows the world what these folks are all about.
boldib
11/21/2012-12:42pm at 12:42 pm (UTC -4)
Point taken, Kong.
It’s a mess.
kingman 26
11/21/2012-1:12pm at 1:12 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed and we appreciate having you here!
SaltyGary
11/21/2012-9:03am at 9:03 am (UTC -4)
Of the last thing they can do is keep them only to trade before the deadline. Imagine the daily trade rumors? I don’t think I can stomach that.
kingman 26
11/21/2012-9:08am at 9:08 am (UTC -4)
That would kill 2nd half ticket sales….and Jeff did indeed hint that “the second preference is probably to keep them and have them play out the season.”
Gary, have a great holiday my friend!
SaltyGary
11/21/2012-9:22am at 9:22 am (UTC -4)
Same to you man!
Prismo
11/21/2012-9:51am at 9:51 am (UTC -4)
OMFGGG this is what I was most concerned about. Keeping them (even 1 of them!) this season just for the 1 draft pick or less prospects in a summer trade is freaking moronic. I don’t think it’ll happen, but I don’t like that it’s even a possibility. It shouldn’t be.
kingman 26
11/21/2012-10:03am at 10:03 am (UTC -4)
When you are dealing with pathologically dishonest and massively indebted corporate types, absolutely anything is possible.
I don’t know man, but for me, finding out that Jeff did not even attend college is kind of stupefying.
How does Fred not even insist that he get an education?
Prismo
11/21/2012-10:10am at 10:10 am (UTC -4)
He really didn’t? Oh lord.
There are many legitimate reasons not to attend college, but being the son of a rich father is not one of them. Especially when that father plans to hand over his (crumbling) empire one day. No wonder everything the Mets do is incredibly short-sighted – Jeff and maybe even Fred probably don’t realize there’s another way to look at things. Heck, before Madoff they probably didn’t even know what a Ponzi scheme was! “Oh, 40% interest each year? Yeah I think that probably sounds normal.”
kingman 26
11/21/2012-10:30am at 10:30 am (UTC -4)
I heard recently that Jeff did not go to college, scoured the Internet, and just found a couple of places that confirmed this without details.
And I agree with what you said. I mean, if Jeff was right there on the front lines with Fred building the empire (he wasn’t), or if he was a star athlete and had an athletic career (he didn’t), or if he served in the military for years (he didn’t), or if he did ANYTHING, that would be different.
And of course, MANY successful people do not attend college.
But, it seems as though when one is an heir to an empire like this, with many facets, one generally gets the very best education possible to prepare himself for this.
If none of this is wrong about Jeff, it really dramatically changes my opinion of Fred.
As for Madoff, they absolutely knew what was going on. When documents were released, in addition to Merrill Lynch speculating years ago that Madoff was running a scam, in some of the papers which came out of the Wilpon offices, the same speculation was there—years ago, and I believe once even in Uncle Saul’s handwriting the word “Ponzi” was used.
They knew exactly what was going on, but, as events have clearly shown, they could do nothing but hope it continued, as their baseball organization was being run largely on Madoff cash, and their new stadium’s funding largely came about due to Madoff wealth and the value of it as collateral.
It’s a bad scene.
Stick
11/21/2012-11:21am at 11:21 am (UTC -4)
I believe he spent some time at Palm Beach CC, and did not even graduate. Probably hung out partying until they broomed him.
Of course none of us know him personally, but from all appearances he has made, and every report written, he really does not seem like the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. But, the scary part, is he thinks he is.
gategem
11/21/2012-7:45pm at 7:45 pm (UTC -4)
Obviously a quality education at an accredited university is not a prerequisite to a successful business career. However, I would think that the old man would have at least purchased a degree for his intelligence challenged son. If nothing else the degree does have cosmetic value in the corporate world.
srt
11/21/2012-11:31am at 11:31 am (UTC -4)
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, Kingman!
kingman 26
11/21/2012-12:05pm at 12:05 pm (UTC -4)
Same to you and yours SRT–I am so sorry for what you have had to deal with with the weather–my parents were without power/phone/etc for over a week but nothing like what you had to go through.
I hope you and Mr. SRT and family have an especially wonderful holiday.
We really were worrying about you that week.
I mean, I think I have known you via here and Metsblog for maybe 7–8 years now?
Have a wonderful week.
Prismo
11/21/2012-1:17pm at 1:17 pm (UTC -4)
I’d love to say I knew 4D well, but I don’t even know her name! Same goes for many of our anonymous users.
kingman 26
11/21/2012-1:42pm at 1:42 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, that does kind of suck. That’s why in our inter-office emails I always use real names!
Stick
11/21/2012-1:49pm at 1:49 pm (UTC -4)
I will give you a hint.
Her first name starts with an “S”.
srt
11/21/2012-2:04pm at 2:04 pm (UTC -4)
Thanks for the kind words, guys.
Hope you all have a great day tomorrow.
Stick is so smart….lol. It’s Susan.
kingman 26
11/21/2012-2:55pm at 2:55 pm (UTC -4)
Ah, nice to know you Susan–I am Doug!
Doug Kingman!
Stickguy
11/21/2012-5:03pm at 5:03 pm (UTC -4)
I know the whole thing (and the “R”) but did not want to divulge in case you wanted to maintain anonymity. Never know when one of your stalkers (er., fans?) might drop by.
SaltyGary
11/21/2012-9:02am at 9:02 am (UTC -4)
I have a buddy who lives on Rockaway and lost everything. Literally the windows were exploding while he was holding his kids, truly terrifying. I tried to get him to go down to the church and he basically said he didn’t care how hungry he was, that’s the ghetto. But he did get to meet Justin Timberlake and Jessica Biel who stationed right across from his house.
srt
11/21/2012-11:38am at 11:38 am (UTC -4)
That’s awful.
Still seeing so many sad stories as a result of this storm.
I’ve got several thousands of dollars of damage but my house is still standing – albeit with a 10′ hole in my roof – among other things. FINALLY have the insurance company coming out this Sunday.
Last house we lived in (and built when we married) – completely flooded and the couple lost everything. It’s about a mile from the ocean. We moved inland about 11 years ago. I guess I should be extremely thankful for that decision.
Saw a special on National Geographic that’s telling us this won’t be an isolated incident for the east coast due to global warming. Yikes!
gategem
11/21/2012-8:59pm at 8:59 pm (UTC -4)
The weather patterns are the same as I witnessed as a lad in the 1950’s. The Pacific is cooling and the Atlantic is warming but since the cycle also occurred in the 1930’s and 1950’s I don’t know what percentage of the problem is related to global warming. Indeed some of the storms that hit in the 1930’s and 1950’s were more ferocious than Sandy but the population density was lower back then and the damage to both humans and property was not as great. In 1938 a storm hit Massachusetts where wind gusts reached 186mph.
Hazmet
11/21/2012-10:55pm at 10:55 pm (UTC -4)
What GG said.
I read this earlier and I wasn’t going to comment but what the heck. Seeing as I’ve worked on weather satellite programs for over 10 years and held a number of design reviews for certain payloads with NASA, NOAA, and on and on I can state that one’s believe in Climate Change is directly proportional to the believe’s of those funding the mission and what their purpose is. When it comes down to it I’ve been in meetings with scientists from these groups and some have said it’s a bunch of BS the way it’s phrased for public consumption.
Of course it’s important to study to understand cycles and understand how little we know given we’ve only been around for a fraction of time when compared to a geological scale. That’s where the science is important. But climate change, please give me a break the cure is worse than the symptom. As I learned during a trip to Brasil, yes spelled that way, the people I was working with were complaining that they now had seen snow at some of the higher peaks that used to be rainforest because they de-forested to plant crops for bio-fuels for, you got it, offset climate change with cleaner fuels. So the result was they screwed up their ecosystem further.
Lastly, a good amount of the current climate change theory is based on a 1 degree adjustment to the data set in the mid 90′s that skewed the results to show warming, not based on any data, just decided to adjust it and walla – instant climate change worsening. I’d also take this a lot more serious if they didn’t have sensors in parking lots where car exhaust is high or near HVAC units further skewing the data set. I’m such a killjoy. So yes climate by definition changes it’s what it does, but, there’d be far less concern of devastation if they didn’t allow building and rebuilding in known flood zones to be perfectly cold and rational about it.
SaltyGary
11/22/2012-7:58am at 7:58 am (UTC -4)
Hurricane of ’38 (aka L.I. Express) took out the entire coast of RI and is considered the most costliest hurricane but Sandy will probably eclipse it. Gate is right on population density, if that hurricane came today it would of been way worse. It was a cat 5 and lowered to a cat 3 right before landfall and killed almost 1000 people. The other problem though with storms like this is it was hard to know it was coming or to inform large numbers of people that it is coming.
What’s cool in this area of RI is if you are in a house that made it through the storm there are generally pictures of the before and after on the walls. The Weekapaug Inn that I worked at was demolished since it was on a land strip that divided the ocean from a salt water lake. The were able to rebuild the inn on a much safer spot on the same lake over the winter and didn’t miss the summer season. The building has over a 100 rooms, it was pretty incredible.
TX
11/21/2012-10:31am at 10:31 am (UTC -4)
How soon before the “pick up Chone Figgins” post is written by Real? T-minus 4… 3… 2…
Stick
11/21/2012-11:16am at 11:16 am (UTC -4)
hey, I called that out last night when I saw the feed go through. I am sure he is having his kids watch a movie so he can work on it during class.
TX
11/21/2012-11:29am at 11:29 am (UTC -4)
You, sir, are a faster man than I. If only I could edit my post to insert a credit.
Hopefully it’s the 86′ highlight video!
Trs86
11/21/2012-6:34pm at 6:34 pm (UTC -4)
Lol, I .let you down.
Stick
11/21/2012-11:15am at 11:15 am (UTC -4)
he is a moron that should keep his mouth shut.
For the health of the team, playing out the string is the absolute worst case scenario.
gategem
11/22/2012-12:26am at 12:26 am (UTC -4)
You made a similar comment in reply to my comment when I first broached this subject in the wee hours of the morning with a quote from Newsday. I guess you’re the only one that actually reads my useless comments. From your perspective I’m not sure that is a positive.
srt
11/21/2012-11:30am at 11:30 am (UTC -4)
I’ll give Jeff props (and Harvey) for helping out in the recovery effort here on the east coast but for the love of the Mets, just refer all questions to SA.
I spent an hour yesterday looking for that story and quotes from Doubleday on Jeff, Rusty. Glad you found it.
I remember that controversy well and I think we should all be ‘ascared’ for the day Jeff inherits this team.
gategem
11/22/2012-12:28am at 12:28 am (UTC -4)
You mean it could get worse?
darknova306
11/21/2012-11:51am at 11:51 am (UTC -4)
Jeff Wilpon is grade A dumb f*cking moron. He should never be allowed near people, let alone a microphone.
I have a lot of respect for Fred Wilpon, and all he did to get where he is. Building a real estate empire, even when you’re simply capitalizing on artificially and unsustainably high demand, is no easy task. He’s smart man, and I think he truly does love this team. That being said, he surrounds himself with too many family and close friend connections, which is the exact opposite of what you should do in any business.
The really unfortunate thing is that Fred likely spoiled the hell out of Jeff. I’m sure Jeffy boy had the silver spoon firmly entrenched in his mouth well before he came out of the womb. People like that tend to not run businesses well, but no one will call them out on it. It’s sad.
Jeff needs to get his half-wit, rich kid hands off my beloved team.
Stick
11/21/2012-12:18pm at 12:18 pm (UTC -4)
well, the only good (?) aspect to this might be that odds are, as soon as Fred is gone and Jeffy has complete control (I assume Unckie Saul will not stand in the way!), he is likely to crater the team very quickly. The landing will hurt, but the fall will not be protracted!
Might be the only thing that will finally get rid of these clowns.
darknova306
11/21/2012-12:25pm at 12:25 pm (UTC -4)
The thought of needing to see the team crater even more than recent years is frightening…
kingman 26
11/21/2012-12:36pm at 12:36 pm (UTC -4)
It really is a potentially horrid picture.
One can look at Sterling with the Clippers and the Bidwill family with the NFL Cards to see that these types of things can literally last for decades.
It took almost 15 years of horrors before the NFL Giant fans revolted in the late 1970s, which I still say is the clear blueprint for action by Met fans if this is not turned around by early 2014.
To me, I find it hard to root against the Mets, but it almost is time to hope this way, as their being forced to sell could be the only way out of this.
And I do believe that the evidence is there to suggest that they are indeed in horrific financial shape.
If the team finishes 4th again and does very little to improve after 2013, then I think full-scale boycott action will begin–and be utterly appropriate.
darknova306
11/21/2012-2:34pm at 2:34 pm (UTC -4)
I need to read up on what you’re talking about regarding the Giants fans’ revolt. It definitely sounds like something I’d love to see happen with this fanbase. I fear, though, that folks are too comfortable sitting behind computers bitching about things to actually try organizing anything like that. The Mets fanbase isn’t some sleeping bear that could wake up and make things happen, we’re a sleeping bear that’s been neutered by years of horrific mediocrity.
The Jose Reyes “demonstrations” they held on the Shea Bridge were about the extent of how far our fans will go to get their opinions through to management. There will be no revolt or rebellion, the best we can hope for is enough apathy to force attendance numbers down to where we wind up with Wilpon’s Tomb and they’re forced to sell, though that likely won’t be for a while.
kingman 26
11/21/2012-3:09pm at 3:09 pm (UTC -4)
In the late ’50s and early ’60s the Giants were very good (in the latter part of the ’50s Head Coach Jim Lee Howell’s staff included Tom Landry as defensive coordinator and Vince Lombardi as running backs coach!) They then sucked well into the 1970s, and around 1977 or 1978, fans began to revolt–they had moved to NJ and sold out every game forever, and fans started to have ticket bonfires outside the stadium and boo everything and bring in nasty banners, and a couple of times people even rented small planes and flew over the stadium during games with banners.
The NFL was embarrassed and Commissioner Pete Rozelle basically forced the bickering Maras to hire George Young as GM who hired Parcells and drafted great player after great player, and they have largely been good ever since.
Today, with the insane “security” climate, fans could not get away with all of that, but on the other hand, in the age of Twitter/ESPN/24-7 everything (and media hatred of the Mets), a relatively small number of fans could have a huge effect.
Imagine it—a few dozen have a ticket burning or two at Citi in the parking lots, film it, and it is on the Internet. If they are arrested and even slightly mistreated, it goes viral. Dozens of fans all unfurl anti-Wilpon banners at once at a national game and others film them getting tossed from the game on their phones. Stuff like this. ESPN would have a field day with it.
2014 is the target date for this to begin.
darknova306
11/21/2012-3:48pm at 3:48 pm (UTC -4)
Ah, excellent. Thanks for that info, Kong. I’ve never really been a football fan so I never got that history lesson before.
kingman 26
11/21/2012-4:28pm at 4:28 pm (UTC -4)
I was about 11 years old when my Dad started taking me to Giants games (damn, too late to prevent my becoming primarily a Dolphin fan!) and I remember a lot of it very well.
The crowds were UGLY!
Happy Thanksgiving Dark and thanks for being here sir!
darknova306
11/21/2012-4:49pm at 4:49 pm (UTC -4)
Cheers! Enjoy your Thanksgiving, Kong! I recommend heavy (yet responsible) drinking and forgetting all the world’s bullsh$t for a day.
Stickguy
11/21/2012-5:06pm at 5:06 pm (UTC -4)
well, these days, it will just be a very quiet revolution.
Millions of fans disguised as empty seats.
darknova306
11/21/2012-5:09pm at 5:09 pm (UTC -4)
Yup! And that revolution is slowly gaining momentum, if the year over year attendance numbers are true. This is why I’m convinced they’ll give extensions to Dickey and Wright… placate the fans to keep attendance as stable as possible next year to try and cling to owning the team for as long as they can. Instead of bringing in a talent infusion to try and build a sustained winner in the near future and give the fans something to actually cheer about…
srt
11/21/2012-2:05pm at 2:05 pm (UTC -4)
‘Jeff needs to get his half-wit, rich kid hands off my beloved team.’
hahahahaha – what you said, darknova.
TX
11/21/2012-12:57pm at 12:57 pm (UTC -4)
Some interesting moves on the AAOP. I prefer the 3rd one.
srt
11/21/2012-2:27pm at 2:27 pm (UTC -4)
I see they posted the finalists.
I had read through all of the ones submitted the other day. I’ll have to go back and read the ones they selected as the best to win.
I know I read that third one through, as I initially laughed at his title.
Stickguy
11/21/2012-5:07pm at 5:07 pm (UTC -4)
I need to go look around and find where they hide those.
Hoflax01
11/21/2012-4:04pm at 4:04 pm (UTC -4)
I am with all of you guys ! Are we kidding Jeff…. I have been a Met’s fan for 40 years and this line of bull crap you sell is the worst ever. M Donald Grant was an upgrade over your bull. We need a new owner or an intervention from the lord.
Stickguy
11/21/2012-5:08pm at 5:08 pm (UTC -4)
locusts and pestilence should do the trick!
Hazmet
11/21/2012-4:20pm at 4:20 pm (UTC -4)
I’ve always considered Jeff to be nothing more than winner of the lucky sperm award to be born into a family of means.
Oh, by the way that might have been the comment that got me kicked off of that other site long ago. It was either that or when I started referring to the family as “The Tampons” instead of the Wilpons.
kingman 26
11/21/2012-4:26pm at 4:26 pm (UTC -4)
Are you sure it wasn’t because of your asscoiation with all of us??
Haz, here’s hoping you and yours have a great holiday tomorrow!
Hazmet
11/21/2012-10:23pm at 10:23 pm (UTC -4)
Guilty as charged and lovin’ every minute of it!
Hope you too have a fine Thanksgiving up along the Northway.
And to all TRDMB friends best wishes for a Happy Thanksgiving. Travel safe all whether near or far.
darknova306
11/21/2012-4:57pm at 4:57 pm (UTC -4)
Enjoy your Thanksgiving, everyone! Eat too much, drink too much, and enjoy the company of family before you get too irritated by them.
It’s great to know and interact with all of you throughout the year, and hopefully we’ll have positive Mets related news to banter about endlessly before December starts. Cheers!
TX
11/21/2012-5:58pm at 5:58 pm (UTC -4)
All citra IPA, coming to a brewing bucket in my closet ASAP!
darknova306
11/21/2012-6:08pm at 6:08 pm (UTC -4)
And you will be richly rewarded for that effort. Cheers!
Have a great Thanksgiving, TX!
TX
11/21/2012-6:51pm at 6:51 pm (UTC -4)
You too. Brew on, my friend. Brew on.
darknova306
11/21/2012-10:11pm at 10:11 pm (UTC -4)
Drinking some Sierra Nevada Celebration with some Founders Harvest on deck. To beer! Cheers!
TX
11/21/2012-6:00pm at 6:00 pm (UTC -4)
And maybe Sandy will go to Wright’s house for Thanksgiving, a la Epstein with Schilling and we’ll have a contract signed come Friday!