Apologies for a rather late “According To Sources” entry. I’m not feeling my best today and I only just now am becoming aware of the latest source entries and there seems to be quite a few of them.
If I have the timeline correct our 1st “According To Sources” comes courtesy of Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports. Rosenthal writes that according to major-league sources the Mets offered Wright a 6 year, $100M contract extension on Monday. Rosenthal writes that sources say Wright prefers a deal of seven years or longer. Rosenthal also writes that sources say the team is making little progress in signing both Wright & Dickey to contract extensions.
Then Andy Martino followed up with his entry to “According To Sources”. Martino writes that according to industry sources the Mets most recent offer to Wright is for 7 years and is worth well above $100M. Martino writes that sources say negotiations have been ongoing for several weeks with offers and counter offers having been traded back and forth between Wright’s representatives and the Mets. Finally Martino writes, “According to one source, Wright was “unhappy” with the way contract talks were proceeding — but that was before the team increased its offer to seven years.”
Adam Rubin of ESPN New York then chimed in with his entry to “According To Sources”. Rubin writes that a major league source said Wright had been offered a 7 year extension on top of the $16 million he is owed for 2013. He writes that a 2nd source that spoke to Mets officials said “they’ve been really optimistic” an extension will be reached with David Wright and the source said “There are offers going back and forth,”. Rubin goes on to write that a source familiar with the matter did not believe a deal would be finalized before the Winter Meetings though a different source said “It could, but it’s certainly speculative that it will,”.
So let’s review. Wright was offered a 6 year offer at $100M and a 7 year offer way above $100M. Wright was unhappy with the way talks were proceeding until the Mets made that 7 year offer. The Mets are making little progress in the Wright & Dickey negotiations but they have been very optimistic an extension will be reached with Wright and a deal will not likely be finalized before the Winter meetings but it also could be but that is speculative.
Phew.
UPDATE 3:55PM: It seems as Jon Heyman is joining today’s “According To Sources” fray. Heyman writes that according to people familiar with the talks the Mets have offered Wright a 7 year deal for $135-140 million dollars. Heyman writes that the Mets people will only say talks are going “back and forth.”
Hat Tip to Prismo for the link.
UPDATE 5:50PM: In an update to an earlier article by Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports he now adds the following. Rosenthal reports that a different source tells him that the Mets made Wright an offer that would be worth between $135 million and $145 million over eight years, including Wright’s $16 million salary this season. Rosenthal made a point to say the following, “The present-day value, however, could be lower — the Mets’ past deals with left-hander Johan Santana and outfielder Carlos Beltran contained significant deferrals, and the team’s offer to Wright might, too.” Rosenthal also said in a tweet that in new money it is a $119M-$129M 7 year extension.
According To Sources History
- 10/6/2012 – it’s conceivable Wright and Dickey will have new deals in place, at least in principle, by the time the World Series begins later this month.
- 10/9/2012 – The Mets are expected to open negotiations with an offer for somewhere in the neighborhood of $100 million for star third baseman David Wright.
- 10/10/2012 – David Wright’s camp intends to milk talks and draw things out until at least after the World Series, in hopes of reaching a better compromise at the last minute.
- 10/13/2012 – Mets could schedule a meeting and begin formal contract negotiations next week & it’s too early to tell if it’s still possible for either player to be signed this month.
- 10/25/2012 – Contract negotiations between the Mets and Wright & Dickey remain very preliminary and have not advanced to the point of talking years or dollars and they are still talking about when to really get talking.
- 11/6/2012 – The Mets are “not close” to a resolution with either Wright or Dickey.
- 11/7/2012 – Discussions regarding Dickey’s contract extension could see “a resolution before the month ends”.
- 11/8/2012 – Mets are not expressing the same optimism with R.A. Dickey in regards to “progressing, albeit slowly, in completing a long-term extension”.
- 11/8/2012 – Mets are “showing little interest in signing Dickey to extension” and are “discussing him in trades”.
- 11/9/2012 – Speculation that Dickey wanted a Oliver Perez type deal is “completely incorrect” and that a decision to sign or trade Dickey after the NL Cy Young winner is announced could be resolved pretty quickly”.
- 11/13/2012 – Mets made Wright an offer and Wright’s people have made a counter offer.
- 11/17/2012 – Mets plan to offer Dickey a two-year contract extension & if Dickey agrees to a 2 year extension he wants more than $10 million a year.
- 11/19/2012 – Mets “would want a monster package for (R.A.) Dickey, and if they don’t get it, probably would not trade him.”
- 11/20/2012 – “50-50” that Wright signs an extension and Wright is less than thrilled with Years and guaranteed money offered so far. At least one team official is “not sure” if Dickey agreeing to an extension is any guarantee he will not be traded this Winter. Finally that part of the reason for the stalemate between Wright & the Mets is because Jeff Wilpon tries to win every negotiation and doesn’t go for the middle ground.”
- 11/27/2012 – Mets offered Wright a 6 year, $100M contract extension. Wright prefers a deal of 7 years or longer. Mets making little progress in signing both Wright & Dickey to extensions.
- 11/27/2012 – Mets most recent offer to Wright is for 7 years and is worth well above $100M. Negotiations have been ongoing for several weeks with offers and counter offers having been traded back and forth. Wright was “unhappy” with the way contract talks were proceeding but that was before the team increased its offer to seven years.
- 11/27/2012 – Wright had been offered a 7 year extension on top of the $16 million he is owed for 2013. Mets have “been really optimistic” an extension will be reached with Wright. Source says it does not believe a deal would be finalized before the Winter Meetings but another source says it could but it’s speculative that it will.
- 11/27/2012 – Mets have offered Wright a 7 year deal for $135-140 million dollars.
- 11/27/2012 – Mets made Wright an offer that would be worth between $135 million and $145 million over eight years, including Wright’s $16 million salary this season.
46 comments
Stick
11/27/2012-3:42pm at 3:42 pm (UTC -4)
just do it and get it over with.
I think both deals happen this week. that way there will be no reason to go to Nashville, so the Mets can cancel their hotel reservations, and save all that money.
really, why go when your team is completely finished and you have no money to spend anyway?
Mr North Jersey
11/27/2012-3:46pm at 3:46 pm (UTC -4)
But but but then how will they draft Kobernus?
SaltyGary
11/27/2012-3:50pm at 3:50 pm (UTC -4)
“just do it and get it over with.”
LOL I feel like it’s getting to be when the wife wants something and she hammers me for months and I just can’t take it anymore and I finally say fine just get the damn think whatevs. I just don’t want to hear about it anymore.
Prismo
11/27/2012-3:51pm at 3:51 pm (UTC -4)
Heyman says the deal is for $135MM+
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/21162812/mets-offering-wright-seven-years-and-135m-plus
Where’s Kingman?
Stick
11/27/2012-3:54pm at 3:54 pm (UTC -4)
I can cover for him.
“Are they insane? This is fiscal insanity. they should be drawn and quartered. Strung up by their balls.
Didn’t they look at his last 2 – 4 year blocks? He has only had 2 good months since 2008. This deal is going to sink the team.
If they turn around and trade Dickey now, I am swearing off the Mets forever, and moving back to Seattle to become a Mariners fan”
Was that good?
Prismo
11/27/2012-3:56pm at 3:56 pm (UTC -4)
LOL
Maybe he can reunite with his grunge band and harken back to the good ol’ 90s.
Prismo
11/27/2012-3:57pm at 3:57 pm (UTC -4)
Wait, the Mets stunk back then too. Dang it.
Stick
11/27/2012-3:59pm at 3:59 pm (UTC -4)
you might not realize this, but there has not been 1 decade in their history where the Mets did not experience an extended period of suckitude. Just got the 201X decade out of the way early!
Stick
11/27/2012-3:58pm at 3:58 pm (UTC -4)
great. another bunch of middle age guys trying to suck in the beer bellies and relive the glory days!
Donal
11/27/2012-5:27pm at 5:27 pm (UTC -4)
Isn’t that Happy Madison’s mission statement?
kingman 26
11/28/2012-10:06am at 10:06 am (UTC -4)
HAHAHA! Nice tribute.
While the Mets were always number 1, I was a big fan of the Piniella/Griffey/Buhner/Randy J/Edgar M Mariners—seriously, those teams were among the very best collections of talent never to win a pennant. The bullpens KILLED them.
Still say Edgar Martinez is the most underrated HOF-level hitter of the last 20 years. Sweetest RH swing EVER.
Prismo
11/28/2012-10:24am at 10:24 am (UTC -4)
Griffey Jr was my favorite player growing up. I got his Donruss rookie card in a pack and bought the official baseball card value magazine just about every month to see how its value was changing. I loved watching those teams as well.
My other non-Mets team I liked was the Rockies in the 90s. Go back and look at the hitters they had. Playing a mile high or not, their lineup was ridiculous. I know it was the steroid era too…but whatever, it was fun to watch.
Stick
11/27/2012-3:57pm at 3:57 pm (UTC -4)
my take? What I just said was true. talk about overpaying for someone past his prime, this was it.
and if that report is accurate, if he has the stones to say no or try to hold them up for more, they should pull the damned thing off the table, hang him out to try, and trade him someplace nasty.
crazy waste of tight resources, and IM(not so humble)), is not going to do a damned thing to reverse the attendance slide.
darknova306
11/27/2012-4:11pm at 4:11 pm (UTC -4)
Attendance has been declining ever since Shitty Field opened. Keeping Wright is all about keeping that slide steady instead of having it fall off quicker.
Seriously, 7 years on TOP of the extension? Gimme a damn break. That’s the deal you hand out to the almost past his prime star when you’re on the verge of contention and legitimately one star bat away from capitalizing on your window. The Mets’ “window” is still pretty much nailed shut.
This team, man. Wow…
darknova306
11/27/2012-4:13pm at 4:13 pm (UTC -4)
Er, that’s *7 years on top of the 2013 option.
Stick
11/27/2012-4:18pm at 4:18 pm (UTC -4)
the worst part? I might have to stop making fun of the Phils for the Howard extension!
darknova306
11/27/2012-4:06pm at 4:06 pm (UTC -4)
Ugh, just get this circus of misery over.
Prismo
11/27/2012-4:09pm at 4:09 pm (UTC -4)
WHOA HAHAHAHAHAHA
Big clarification from Rosenthal.
He says the $135-145 million is over 8 years, which INCLUDES this season.
So the extension offer is $119-129MM over 7 years.
Prismo
11/27/2012-4:10pm at 4:10 pm (UTC -4)
Gosh these beat writers stink.
Mr North Jersey
11/27/2012-4:18pm at 4:18 pm (UTC -4)
Waiting for Rosenthal to update his article so I can then update this one.
Stick
11/27/2012-4:20pm at 4:20 pm (UTC -4)
still a ridiculous length, if none of it is options (even vesting ones).
of all the teams to lock up for an extended period, they had to pick 2012?
srt
11/27/2012-5:21pm at 5:21 pm (UTC -4)
Approx. 17.5 MIL for 7 years?
That’s about what I figured it would take to keep him. In fact, I figured it would be between 18-19 MIL.
Stickguy
11/27/2012-5:40pm at 5:40 pm (UTC -4)
it would not seem at all as bad if it was 5/90. Still think he should be traded.
heck, even the 5/90 with 2-18mill vesting options sounds better!
srt
11/27/2012-6:30pm at 6:30 pm (UTC -4)
I know the Mets said they wanted to keep Wright a Met for life….but I can’t remember….did Wright say anything in that regard? Or did he just say he’d like to stay in NY and get an extension done.
I’m still kind of surprised he’s willing to sign at all, given the fact that he made noises about wanting to see how serious they were about fielding a contending team.
Stick
11/27/2012-6:47pm at 6:47 pm (UTC -4)
apparently he was more interested in seeing a bigger deal than his peers than anything passing for the mets making an attempt to be a serious winning team.
asod75
11/27/2012-4:47pm at 4:47 pm (UTC -4)
I am beyond pissed about this. Mets spend nothing last few years to improve the team, so just how is signing Wright (already 30) to a 7-8 year deal going to improve the team? I am almost certain he will be a sunk cost by the end of the deal. Sure, he had a great first half last year, but he hasn’t necessarily been lighting it up these last few years and has had some injury problems as well. This money could have been used elsewhere. Better yet, Wright could have gone a long way to snagging 3-4 young players that could help this team in the future. If they are hell bent on improving their outfield this winter, just how are they going to do it with few trade pieces. Trading Dickey probably won’t land as much as Wright would have. Plus a Dickey extension (huh huh huh huh) would have cost less than a Wright extension and at least the Mets would have had a decent staff. And if you bring both back, you get nothing in the trade market (unless they foolishly trade Niese or Ike). This organization drives me crazy. God, I hate the Wilpons, especially Jeffy Boy.
Stickguy
11/27/2012-5:36pm at 5:36 pm (UTC -4)
I believe you have vented your ire in the correct direction.
and this move about nothing, zippo, nada to do with improving the team (the foundation) going forward. It was all about trying to appease the remaining fans, and make some kind of statement to the world at large.
Prismo
11/27/2012-4:53pm at 4:53 pm (UTC -4)
Carlos Ruiz suspended 25 games for amphetamine use.
srt
11/27/2012-5:21pm at 5:21 pm (UTC -4)
LOL…..
25 games? I thought a first offense was 50 games. I guess I got that wrong.
Mr North Jersey
11/27/2012-5:23pm at 5:23 pm (UTC -4)
i saw a tweet that said amphetamines do not get 50 games as steroids do.
srt
11/27/2012-5:29pm at 5:29 pm (UTC -4)
Ah…I see. Thanks.
Stick
11/27/2012-6:27pm at 6:27 pm (UTC -4)
interesting though, this is his 2nd offense. Surprised that does not get more than 25 games.
Expensive dose of ADD meds. Gonna cost him over 700K. Ouch.
Could also explain why he had a way above normal career year at his age.
srt
11/27/2012-6:36pm at 6:36 pm (UTC -4)
And given the fact that this is coming out now, you know he failed that drug test during the season and he appealed it. There would be no reason for him to be taking those amphetamines during the off season.
From what I understand, the failed drug test and the appeal is supposed to remain secret until the process is done. So makes sense it took this long.
And his second offense, which only carries a warning and is to remain secret as well.
Dummy….whether or not one agrees with the 180 MLB did on drug use, it’s now against policy and all these players know it. If they’re rolling the dice, they’d better be prepared to pay the price if caught.
No wonder he had a career year last year…..
greggofboken
11/27/2012-5:26pm at 5:26 pm (UTC -4)
I suspect he was today’s source for the conflicting reports from Rubin, Martino, Rosenthal and Heyman. Glad they caught him so quickly.
Stickguy
11/27/2012-5:38pm at 5:38 pm (UTC -4)
anything that hurts the Phils is A OK i my book!
It will give all the pissy people in Philly something else to complain about besides the Eagles.
and man, I have to say, Seeing the G-men get their Mojo back vs. the Packers followed by the the eagles bumbling away another game made my weekend, sports-wise.
Now hopefully they rise up to try and save Reid’s job by beating the cowgirls!
Mr North Jersey
11/27/2012-5:42pm at 5:42 pm (UTC -4)
So Rosenthal has it at somewhere between $17M and $18.4M a year over 7 years and Heyman has it at somewhere between $19.3M and $20M a year over 7 years.
Stick
11/27/2012-6:25pm at 6:25 pm (UTC -4)
either way, a boat load of cash!
srt
11/27/2012-7:14pm at 7:14 pm (UTC -4)
Per MLBTR
David Wright: Reports Are Inaccurate
Oh boy….
darknova306
11/27/2012-7:16pm at 7:16 pm (UTC -4)
Just saw that. This whole thing is hilarious.
asod75
11/27/2012-8:08pm at 8:08 pm (UTC -4)
Wonder if the Wilpons or someone else leaked the contract terms to make themselves look better to the Wright fans when they inevitably trade him. “Hey at least we tried.” Personally, I hope they do trade him but the circuslike atmosphere is laughable.
srt
11/27/2012-8:13pm at 8:13 pm (UTC -4)
So what…….beat writers are so starved for any Met news they’re making stuff up now?
Gotta go with ‘where there’s smoke, there’s fire’.
No doubt in my mind that the Mets have made Wright an offer and his agent has sent back a counter offer. Just what the parameters are of those offers is anyone’s guess right now…..and it looks like some beat writers have no problem with doing just that.
Mr North Jersey
11/27/2012-8:22pm at 8:22 pm (UTC -4)
Keep in mind that we do not know what specifically he was disappointed as far as the earlier reports go.
Disappointed that the reports were close to accurate suggesting the Mets leaked it?
Disappointed that the reports are nowhere near accurate at all?
Disappointed that he was reported as disappointed with how they were progressing?
Disappointed about all of the above?
All we know is he is disappointed by the reports that he had read earlier today. What specifically remains to be seen.
Darknova
11/27/2012-8:29pm at 8:29 pm (UTC -4)
He’s disappointed that,”reports are inaccurate”. That could mean anything about any of the reports. I’d say it’s likely just posturing.
Mr North Jersey
11/27/2012-8:32pm at 8:32 pm (UTC -4)
“That could mean anything about any of the reports.”
This
Donal
11/28/2012-10:01am at 10:01 am (UTC -4)
For all your up to the minute David Wright information
http://www.didwrightsignyet.com/
srt
11/28/2012-10:05am at 10:05 am (UTC -4)
LOL.