This evening we have 2 entries, both 1st timers to our “According To Sources”. The 1st comes courtesy of Jim Bowden of ESPNxm in the form of a tweet. Bowden tweets that a source involved in negotiations says both sides aren’t even close to a deal. This despite RA Dickey describing progress in negotiations.
The 2nd comes courtesy of T.R. Sullivan who follows the Texas Rangers for MLB.com. Sullivan writes that according to sources, the Rangers are definitely interested in talking more with the Mets at the Winter Meetings regarding trading for Mets pitcher R.A. Dickey.
According To Sources History
- 10/6/2012 – it’s conceivable Wright and Dickey will have new deals in place, at least in principle, by the time the World Series begins later this month.
- 10/9/2012 – The Mets are expected to open negotiations with an offer for somewhere in the neighborhood of $100 million for star third baseman David Wright.
- 10/10/2012 – David Wright’s camp intends to milk talks and draw things out until at least after the World Series, in hopes of reaching a better compromise at the last minute.
- 10/13/2012 – Mets could schedule a meeting and begin formal contract negotiations next week & it’s too early to tell if it’s still possible for either player to be signed this month.
- 10/25/2012 – Contract negotiations between the Mets and Wright & Dickey remain very preliminary and have not advanced to the point of talking years or dollars and they are still talking about when to really get talking.
- 11/6/2012 – The Mets are “not close” to a resolution with either Wright or Dickey.
- 11/7/2012 – Discussions regarding Dickey’s contract extension could see “a resolution before the month ends”.
- 11/8/2012 – Mets are not expressing the same optimism with R.A. Dickey in regards to “progressing, albeit slowly, in completing a long-term extension”.
- 11/8/2012 – Mets are “showing little interest in signing Dickey to extension” and are “discussing him in trades”.
- 11/9/2012 – Speculation that Dickey wanted a Oliver Perez type deal is “completely incorrect” and that a decision to sign or trade Dickey after the NL Cy Young winner is announced could be resolved pretty quickly”.
- 11/13/2012 – Mets made Wright an offer and Wright’s people have made a counter offer.
- 11/17/2012 – Mets plan to offer Dickey a two-year contract extension & if Dickey agrees to a 2 year extension he wants more than $10 million a year.
- 11/19/2012 – Mets “would want a monster package for (R.A.) Dickey, and if they don’t get it, probably would not trade him.”
- 11/20/2012 – “50-50” that Wright signs an extension and Wright is less than thrilled with Years and guaranteed money offered so far. At least one team official is “not sure” if Dickey agreeing to an extension is any guarantee he will not be traded this Winter. Finally that part of the reason for the stalemate between Wright & the Mets is because Jeff Wilpon tries to win every negotiation and doesn’t go for the middle ground.”
- 11/27/2012 – Mets offered Wright a 6 year, $100M contract extension. Wright prefers a deal of 7 years or longer. Mets making little progress in signing both Wright & Dickey to extensions.
- 11/27/2012 – Mets most recent offer to Wright is for 7 years and is worth well above $100M. Negotiations have been ongoing for several weeks with offers and counter offers having been traded back and forth. Wright was “unhappy” with the way contract talks were proceeding but that was before the team increased its offer to seven years.
- 11/27/2012 – Wright had been offered a 7 year extension on top of the $16 million he is owed for 2013. Mets have “been really optimistic” an extension will be reached with Wright. Source says it does not believe a deal would be finalized before the Winter Meetings but another source says it could but it’s speculative that it will.
- 11/27/2012 – Mets have offered Wright a 7 year deal for $135-140 million dollars.
- 11/27/2012 – Mets made Wright an offer that would be worth between $135 million and $145 million over eight years, including Wright’s $16 million salary this season.
- 11/28/2012 – Deferred money is an issue in Wright negotiations and Santana’s $137.5M deal is a “benchmark” Wright and his agents are pursuing. Also if R.A. Dickey is signed to an extension it would “almost definitely” eliminate the possibility he is traded this offseason.
- 11/29/2012 – Mets have made their best offer which is a 8 year $140M offer if you include the $16M Wright is due to make in 2013. The deal is back loaded similar to how former Met Jose Reyes contract was structured when he signed with the Marlins. And there is deferred money in the offer.
- 11/30/2012 – Dickey would be content with a two-year extension on top of the existing $5 million owed in 2013.
- 12/1/2012 – Mets increased their offer to R.A. Dickey, but it’s unclear whether it’s close enough to what Dickey seeks in a two-year deal.
- 12/2/2012 – Regarding the Dickey negotiations both sides aren’t even close to a deal.
- 12/2/2012 – Texas Rangers are interested in trading for Mets pitcher R.A. Dickey.
32 comments
SaltyGary
12/2/2012-7:11pm at 7:11 pm (UTC -4)
He is so traded.
TRS86
12/2/2012-7:12pm at 7:12 pm (UTC -4)
I hope so and it better be for a stud OF.
SaltyGary
12/2/2012-7:15pm at 7:15 pm (UTC -4)
Exactly. As much as we need catching too, it’s at such a higher premium for mediocrity compared to OF. OF FTW!
TRS86
12/2/2012-7:18pm at 7:18 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah, not the time to trade for a catcher. Trade for and OF and sign a FA catcher.
TRS86
12/2/2012-7:17pm at 7:17 pm (UTC -4)
Just another question but would the Rangers deal Nelson Cruz?
I know it’s outside the box because everyone mentions prospects but he certainly fills a need. He is only signed for 2013 though. Not saying straight up for Dickey, just adding a name,
TX
12/2/2012-7:25pm at 7:25 pm (UTC -4)
Wouldn’t mind if he was involved, but as he would only be a rental, I wouldn’t want to give up much of anything for him. Now, if he were to be extended…
wanny
12/2/2012-7:28pm at 7:28 pm (UTC -4)
mets shouldnt be interested. he’s only under control for 2013 and will make about 11m if healthy. plus, he’ll be 32 by the end of the season.
TRS86
12/2/2012-7:29pm at 7:29 pm (UTC -4)
Again, just throwing shit against the wall.
wanny
12/2/2012-7:33pm at 7:33 pm (UTC -4)
And I’m just wiping the wall clean.
Stick
12/2/2012-7:46pm at 7:46 pm (UTC -4)
I just walked my Lab. I got plenty for you. A whole bucket, so you can cover a lot of wall.
Prismo
12/2/2012-7:41pm at 7:41 pm (UTC -4)
I understand technically the Mets would be trading 1 year of Dickey….
But since he’s willing to sign a reasonable 2 year deal with us, it FEELS like we’re trading away 3 years of Dickey (and that sort of is the opportunity cost).
So to get a player who we’ll have for 1 season…it doesn’t make sense to me. Especially when winning anything this year is a long shot anyway.
Stick
12/2/2012-7:45pm at 7:45 pm (UTC -4)
I am not trading dickey or Niese for a 1-year guy (certainly not as a primary piece in the deal). And in this case, I am willing to bet that Sandy agrees with me.
Bryan
12/2/2012-9:20pm at 9:20 pm (UTC -4)
Dickey could actually be signed to an extension and then traded, that’s possible, so a team would know they’re getting him for a few years. Also, I think Dickey would want to sign a longer deal with whoever trades for him. But a one-year rental guy for Dickey only makes sense if you’re planning on being competitive in 2013. Is anyone planning on that?
Mr North Jersey
12/2/2012-9:30pm at 9:30 pm (UTC -4)
I am of the opinion that if the Mets are unable to sign Dickey to an extension that this may end up where a deal is made to trade Dickey dependent on if an agreement can be reached after trying to negotiate an extension with said team within an exclusive window.
Stick
12/2/2012-9:45pm at 9:45 pm (UTC -4)
I actually think that a team getting him will have a real good chance to sign him for a couple of years at reasonable money. I know he likes the Mets, but from some of his comments, it really sounds like he wants to lock in the retirement plan now, and not take the chance of injury or falling apart next year before he becomes a FA.
Prismo
12/2/2012-10:30pm at 10:30 pm (UTC -4)
I believe any extension made with the Mets would have a no-trade clause.
Stick
12/2/2012-10:34pm at 10:34 pm (UTC -4)
agreed. if nothing else, signing him like that and turning around to trade him right away would be incredibly bad form, and look really bad for the team.
TX
12/2/2012-10:59pm at 10:59 pm (UTC -4)
I believe the children are the future…
Mr North Jersey
12/2/2012-11:18pm at 11:18 pm (UTC -4)
Teach them well and let them lead the way?
Stick
12/2/2012-11:45pm at 11:45 pm (UTC -4)
tell them to get a job.
gategem
12/3/2012-2:52am at 2:52 am (UTC -4)
“Teach them well and let them lead the way?”
“just another brick in the wall”
wanny
12/2/2012-8:21pm at 8:21 pm (UTC -4)
Interesting from Bowden:
Baltimore Orioles
Player: Brian Matusz, LHP
Reason: There are several teams that believe what Matusz did in relief for the Orioles down the stretch he can also do in the starting rotation if given another opportunity. The Orioles want a corner guy/DH, and they might have to use Matusz to fill that hole.
Possible trade partners: Mets, Padres, Indians, Cubs
Duda??
Stick
12/2/2012-8:35pm at 8:35 pm (UTC -4)
sounds like it. Can he be a closer?
damned, all this trade talk has me revved up. Sandy better not close up shop and do nothing interesting again this year.
wanny
12/2/2012-8:52pm at 8:52 pm (UTC -4)
he was a 4th overall pick and was projected to be a front of the rotation starter so I would suspect that he has the stuff to close. too soon to tell. he was utterly dominant in his 13 relief innings. but his numbers as a starter were ugly.
Stick
12/2/2012-8:54pm at 8:54 pm (UTC -4)
sell them on the 30+ HRs duda will give them when he does not have to worry about playing the OF any more!
TRS86
12/2/2012-8:39pm at 8:39 pm (UTC -4)
Please, please trade Duda for a good arm.
Stick
12/2/2012-8:53pm at 8:53 pm (UTC -4)
I love Duda, and still think he is going to have some monster years with the bad. I just worry he never will be able to do it in the OF.
Prismo
12/2/2012-10:31pm at 10:31 pm (UTC -4)
You have to admit, if Duda hit 40 HR last year none of us would be complaining about his defense.
Stick
12/2/2012-10:35pm at 10:35 pm (UTC -4)
I won’t be complaining when he hits 40 this year playing LF for the Mets either.
TX
12/2/2012-11:02pm at 11:02 pm (UTC -4)
And if Frankie saved 70 games… Sorry, i spilled my beer and dropped my peyote.
TRS86
12/2/2012-8:42pm at 8:42 pm (UTC -4)
Dang, you must be an insider.
TRS86
12/2/2012-8:42pm at 8:42 pm (UTC -4)
Oh I wasn’t saying one for one.