The Mets, who reportedly never ruled out the possibility of Torres returning, can scratch him off the possibilities list as Torres signed with the Giants for a 1 year $2M contract. Torres, who was acquired by the Mets during the 2011 Winter meetings in a trade along with pitcher Ramon Ramirez for Mets CF Angel Pagan, was just coming off a down year where he hit .221 with 4 HR and 19 RBI and because of the Giants “lack of financial flexibility” at the time according to Giants GM Brian Sabean their options were limited and the Giants GM made the move for Pagan. Which turned out to be a great move as Pagan was a catalyst in helping the Giants win this past WS.
Torres, who was a fan favorite and winner of the 2010 ‘Willie Mac’ Award for most inspirational player and helping the Giants win a WS in 2010, thanked the fans for their support after the trade was announced saying also that he was “never going to forget San Francisco.” So you can imagine why Torres said he could not “stop laughing” from the joy saying, “It’s such a great feeling” regarding coming back to San Francisco.
At one point Torres even called upon that old Tony Bennett classic “I Left My Heart In San Francisco” saying, “My heart was there. The Giants were the team that gave me an opportunity.”
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Stick
12/13/2012-11:32pm at 11:32 pm (UTC -4)
good for him, and thanks to S.F. for eliminating the possibility of Sandy bringing him back. Though of course, in a couple of months when Sandy wakes up from his Mai Tai hangover, and heads to the dumpster to finish his off season shopping, I am sure he will fins someone even worse to get.
and OT, and I know this might sound petty, but watching the Eagles self destruct in epic ways (at home) still puts a smile on my face.
darknova306
12/13/2012-11:43pm at 11:43 pm (UTC -4)
Haha, well said all around (except the football stuff, cause football’s silly to me). I like Torres, but he’s not a good enough ballplayer to help my pathetic worthless baseball team.
Stick
12/13/2012-11:47pm at 11:47 pm (UTC -4)
just root against anything connected to Philadelphia and don’t worry about the details.
darknova306
12/13/2012-11:52pm at 11:52 pm (UTC -4)
I dig that jazz, holmes.
Mr North Jersey
12/13/2012-11:51pm at 11:51 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t know if it’s my still recovering weak stomach, the nearing of the end of the world or just a premonition but I have this weird calm before the storm feeling that something big Mets related will happen tomorrow. I just don’t know if I will like it.
Has John Maine signed with anyone yet?
darknova306
12/13/2012-11:56pm at 11:56 pm (UTC -4)
Career ending surgery announcement for Matt Harvey…?
Stick
12/14/2012-12:03am at 12:03 am (UTC -4)
you have an evil streak. I hope you know that.
darknova306
12/14/2012-12:11am at 12:11 am (UTC -4)
Evil? Nah. Just realistically cynical. I’m the Ceetar of bitterness!
Stick
12/14/2012-12:10am at 12:10 am (UTC -4)
I am expecting something this week (given it is now Friday, I will count the weekend).
and I still have the faint hope that the Mets have been laying in the weeds, and actually will make a flurry of moves. Though that could just be gas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8H2FIf1oH4
darknova306
12/14/2012-12:16am at 12:16 am (UTC -4)
Love that movie. If I could trade places with Fred Wilpon, I’d lock Jeffy in a basement, hand Sandy a key to the money vault, and say “do your thing, son”.
greggofboken
12/14/2012-12:26am at 12:26 am (UTC -4)
I’ve found the Giants fans’ reaction to Torres a mystery. The WSJ ran a short profile on him that outlines his difficulty in focusing, challenges in retaining information, and the like.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303768104577460751707004654.html
I didn’t see Gigante, and I understand that he can only manage 2-3 hours of sleep a night.
My memories of him will always be of his back to the camera, chasing after the ball that’s sailed over his head yet again, turning an F8 into a double….and wondering why, halfway into the season, he’s still playing that shallow.
I suppose the Giants fans took to him for the hurdles he has had to overcome. But when I watched him, I couldn’t help wondering “How much sleep did this guy get last night?”
I’m happy enough that he’s in a place where others will appreciate him more than I did. Maybe both of us will sleep better.
darknova306
12/14/2012-12:46am at 12:46 am (UTC -4)
He had a really nice 2010 season, and all it takes to enamor yourself with a fanbase is a good year where your team is successful (this is why I think they really took to him, though documented adversity helps). Hell, I know tons of Mets fans that still love Jeff Francoeur, and his only “adversity” is that he’s horrendous at baseball. It’s always hard to tell how a fanbase will be influenced by a player, regardless of talent/performance.
I fully agree with your sentiment, good for him going back to a fanbase that loves and appreciates him. I wish him well, but he’s easily replaced for less money.
srt
12/14/2012-7:29am at 7:29 am (UTC -4)
The Giants organization and fans love him.
He was in the press box for most of the Giants post season games played at home. They actually mentioned seeing him there on air during the WS.
ColoradoMetsFan
12/14/2012-9:32am at 9:32 am (UTC -4)
So basically, we have a win-win for the Giants, and a Sandy Alderson special for the Mets. Sounds about right…
TX
12/14/2012-10:00am at 10:00 am (UTC -4)
It’s a rough time to be a Mets fan. At least when they sucked in the 90′s, there wasn’t 24/7 coverage and our ADHD wasn’t as refined as it has become in this day and age.
ColoradoMetsFan
12/14/2012-12:29pm at 12:29 pm (UTC -4)
So true…
TX
12/14/2012-10:11am at 10:11 am (UTC -4)
Any-Ball is back to the Tigers. Scratch them off the RA list (not that they were really ever on it).
greggofboken
12/14/2012-10:27am at 10:27 am (UTC -4)
Add the Bosox back on though, perhaps. They sniffed around initially, then got quiet. (Odd choice for them, though. Where is it they expect to be going that they’d want to add him?)
TRS86
12/14/2012-10:47am at 10:47 am (UTC -4)
Does ANYONE know if we re-sign Dickey to an extension if the Mets CAN even trade him right away? I know the rule is for newly signed FA that they can’t be traded but does it still apply for extensions? While some have said yes, others have said no and then others have even said yes you may trade him but the players union might file a grievance and then others have even said that it would even further detract from the Mets name in the FA market in the future.
So before we all talk about how they should sign him and then trade him, is it even possible or logical?
Prismo
12/14/2012-11:30am at 11:30 am (UTC -4)
I think the important thing is that it would be INCREDIBLY bad form to do a sign-and-trade without his permission. I don’t think even the Wilpons would dare ask Sandy to do such a thing.
Prismo
12/14/2012-11:34am at 11:34 am (UTC -4)
Also, I’m pretty sure if Dickey was traded to the Rangers he’d accept a 2 year/26 mil offer from them. So it’s kind of a moot point.
TX
12/14/2012-11:32am at 11:32 am (UTC -4)
This per MLBTR:
One general manager told ESPN.com’s Buster Olney the Mets could increase Dickey’s trade value by giving the knuckleballer the two-year, $26MM extension he apparently seeks. Dickey will earn $5MM in 2013, so adding two years and $26MM would essentially make it a three-year, $31MM deal.
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#k8fSQQrSW0R3oYqs.99
So, if a general manager is saying that, how could it be that they could not be traded if they sign a contract? Unless the extension would cancel that “can’t trade until June” thing.
kingman 26
12/14/2012-11:43am at 11:43 am (UTC -4)
I am not sure, but I do not think this applies to re-signing your own players.
TRS86
12/14/2012-11:57am at 11:57 am (UTC -4)
I guess it also doesn’t mean trading him right now either…
TX
12/14/2012-12:07pm at 12:07 pm (UTC -4)
true, it may. But at what purpose? You really aren’t looking to bring in an influx of talent a year from now. You are looking to do that now. If you are looking to do that in a year from now, you’ve basically sacrificed 2013 for nothing. Would at least like to have the return start to get some work with the team a gel as a young unit.
TRS86
12/14/2012-12:40pm at 12:40 pm (UTC -4)
Well not really considering that Wheeler may not be ready yet… So waiting until the deadline or next off-season could net you time while you are still productive. Still risky though because what if Dickey tanks?
kingman 26
12/14/2012-11:47am at 11:47 am (UTC -4)
Really, really hope Alderson holds out and gets something serious from TEX rather than taking the second rate crap from the Angels.
Mediocrity is not increased in value by getting a lot of it.
ColoradoMetsFan
12/14/2012-12:30pm at 12:30 pm (UTC -4)
Can’t help but remember the Seaver trade…
srt
12/14/2012-1:30pm at 1:30 pm (UTC -4)
Was thinking about that Seaver trade as well.
Given the fact that more often than not, trading an established ‘star’ for prospects usually doesn’t work out as well for the team getting the prospects – the FO needs to hold out for what they’re asking, instead of settling for what they can get. If it comes down to settling, then just extend him.
darknova306
12/14/2012-2:32pm at 2:32 pm (UTC -4)
Absolutely. Since the start I’ve been in the ‘trade Dickey/Wright for top level prospects that can help develop a long term winner’ camp. I won’t, however, accept trading one of them for some filler pieces just to make a move. That would be lunacy, especially with Dickey’s contract demands being well below market value for what he represents on and off the field.
We have to keep in mind that this is the Mets organization, so whatever they do will likely lead to miserable failure.
ColoradoMetsFan
12/14/2012-12:47pm at 12:47 pm (UTC -4)
OT, but interesting story in the NYT today re: Kevin Youkilis and his Jewish roots…
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/13/sports/baseball/fascination-with-a-new-yankees-jewish-roots.html?src=me&ref=general
Prismo
12/14/2012-12:54pm at 12:54 pm (UTC -4)
G-d damn it, now I like him.
TX
12/14/2012-2:28pm at 2:28 pm (UTC -4)
Per the talking heads, talks are ramping up to trade Dickey. And then I’m sure they’ll ramp down. And then up. And then down…
I understand the Mets position and the Mets needs, I’m getting a dirtier and dirtier feeling on how Dickey is being treated by the Mets. He’d probably help his case if he bit his tongue every now and again, but still…
Stickguy
12/14/2012-2:59pm at 2:59 pm (UTC -4)
you get the feeling too that when Sandy goes out to dinner, the waitress has to come over 8 times, answer a bazillion questions, and send out the chef twice before Sandy will condescend to order a meal?
greggofboken
12/14/2012-3:00pm at 3:00 pm (UTC -4)
Both Heyman and Danny Knobler are implying that Angels are now open on both Bourjos and Trumbo in a deal for pitching (though not specifically Dickey), though their preference remains to shop Bourjos.
greggofboken
12/14/2012-3:13pm at 3:13 pm (UTC -4)
Martino tweet specifying intense talks with Texas, Toronto and Baltimore today.
Stickguy
12/14/2012-3:17pm at 3:17 pm (UTC -4)
get this done, fill a couple of holes, then go heavy on plugging the rest before Christmas.
I think it is perfect timing if they make a flood of moves now, since yesterday the blogs were full of “sandy is doing nothing the team will be identical” posts.
greggofboken
12/14/2012-3:23pm at 3:23 pm (UTC -4)
It sounds like talks are heaviest w/the Jays….so maybe D’Arnaud? Too much to hope for? 3 teams in though….so maybe it’s enough pressure.
TX
12/14/2012-3:34pm at 3:34 pm (UTC -4)
D’Arnaud and Gose would be my dream.
Stick
12/14/2012-3:39pm at 3:39 pm (UTC -4)
most likely the Mets have to throw someone else decent in, but depending on who, it could still be a really good deal.
greggofboken
12/14/2012-3:45pm at 3:45 pm (UTC -4)
Sounds like a trade could be imminent. Rubin’s source: “If I was in Vegas, I’d put money on it.” (Rubin getting trade rumors from Pete Rose?)
Stick
12/14/2012-3:50pm at 3:50 pm (UTC -4)
if it gets this serious, and they are confirming that they have a takeable offer on the table, it has to move soon because that team won’t wait forever, and the others should know it is crunch time to put up or shut up.
Hopefully it gets done and announced today. So the wailing and complaining from the haters can commence.
what I am going to find most amusing is that odds are the people complaining the most about the deal (who they traded or what they got back) are the same ones pissing and moaning that Sandy is not “doing anything”.
TX
12/14/2012-4:20pm at 4:20 pm (UTC -4)
Heyman is saying JP and Gose. It better be that plus a high end lower level prospect.
Stick
12/14/2012-4:32pm at 4:32 pm (UTC -4)
I agree. JP is crap. Gose has upside and certainly fills a big hole in CF, but he is still a work in progress.
JP would have to produce a lot of runs to make this worthwhile.
Now, if there is a good prospect in there too, more reasonable. Maybe a young pen arm with closer potential?
We shall see.
Stick
12/14/2012-3:51pm at 3:51 pm (UTC -4)
oh, most important, this may mean that Mr. NJs stomach really can predict the future. Quite a gift there big guy!
Stick
12/14/2012-4:42pm at 4:42 pm (UTC -4)
side thought: we know, because Sandy said so, there is theoretically money to spend (has to be ~20mill with the Wright and Bay deferrals). If Dickey goes for these 2 guys (both minimum wage or close), figure another 5mill. so they have to have an easy 15-20 to spend, while still having 5-10 in reserve.
and if this happens, they will still have a gaping hole in the OF corners and potentially pen. So they damned well better get some respectable hitting for a corner.
Ideally a RH platoon mostly bat (Ross?) and another guy to play every day.
even if they can’t, 2 RH OFs (Actually could be Ross and hairston).
and OF of Duda/Hairston platooning in LF, Gose in CF, and baxter/Ross in RF might actually not be horrific.
greggofboken
12/14/2012-4:49pm at 4:49 pm (UTC -4)
Texas is believe to have offfered Olt and Coiy Buckel (p, 2nd rounder of 2010) for Dickey. Perhaps the offer in hand they’re sitting on. Rangers are seen to be not the frontrunners with this offer.
TX
12/14/2012-4:54pm at 4:54 pm (UTC -4)
the rumors are going nuts. Just slapping stuff against the wall. Apparently the Buckel kid projects to be a 3/4 type pitcher. I’d prefer those 2 to a Gose/JP type. And as mentioned above, they better have a higher ceiling P to that Gose/JP offer or its a no deal for me at all.
greggofboken
12/14/2012-5:01pm at 5:01 pm (UTC -4)
Yeah. They are. Martino now reporting Mets asked about Buckel, but not confirmed that the Rangers offered. Rangers are saying they’re out on Dickey. Smoke needs to clear here.
greggofboken
12/14/2012-5:05pm at 5:05 pm (UTC -4)
And on that last note….I’m off. Fingers crossed for some good news out of Toronto.
Stick
12/14/2012-5:17pm at 5:17 pm (UTC -4)
should be close now. But you are right, everyone is scrambling to put something up on the rumor mill.
I would bet that the final deal will not be pegged by anyone before it is done, and there is a 50% chance he will go to a team that is not even being speculated about!
darknova306
12/14/2012-5:21pm at 5:21 pm (UTC -4)
Man, I’ve got zero interest in Arencibia. If he’s a big piece of a trade, there’s gotta be some serious talent coming with him.
TX
12/14/2012-5:30pm at 5:30 pm (UTC -4)
10K? 15K? How many words will spew forth from Kong if it is only JP and Gose?
I like Gose. I also like JP. But there better be a Fulmer type in there too.
Stick
12/14/2012-5:32pm at 5:32 pm (UTC -4)
how about JP, Gose and a young RP with closer potential? That would fill 3 needs (if you assume JP fills any need).
darknova306
12/14/2012-5:36pm at 5:36 pm (UTC -4)
If this results in only JP and Gose, the tome coming from Kong’s keyboard will be worthy of grabbing a 750mL bottle of some truly wonderful Belgian beer and settling in for a while. I’ll put the over/under at 12K words and a serious buzz.
kingman 26
12/14/2012-7:04pm at 7:04 pm (UTC -4)
You better get a keg delivered and take a day off if it is JP and Gose for Dickey.
darknova306
12/14/2012-7:09pm at 7:09 pm (UTC -4)
I’ll have to brew something special to commemorate that. Sandy’s Fail Ale?
Stick
12/14/2012-5:33pm at 5:33 pm (UTC -4)
Hmm, need a clean post to start speculating on what follow-up moves will be needed…
TX
12/14/2012-5:43pm at 5:43 pm (UTC -4)
Get Gose, JP and a high end lower level prospect. Sign Lannann on a 1-2 year deal. Sign Ross. Trade Duda and Valdy for that RP on the Indians that the Mets were reportedly interested in. Sign a back up Infielder and I think that about covers it.
Stick
12/14/2012-6:23pm at 6:23 pm (UTC -4)
I believe you have a complete roster, reasonably balanced, well under budget, and quite possibly competitive. And I believe it would qualify as Sandy “doing something”
as long as the lower level prospect coming back was good.
There is another (nuclear) option. Trade Dickey to a team that is not the Blue Jays. Trade Neise for D’auberville and gose (mets could give a prospect back too). Then sign lannan and bring back big poof.
Hey, it is change baby! All depends of course on the guys back for Dickey, but if it included a thumper corner OF, you really have remade the team.
TX
12/14/2012-6:36pm at 6:36 pm (UTC -4)
You could trade Dickey to Balt for Bundy. That would fix the SP issue and no need for Poof!
kingman 26
12/14/2012-7:11pm at 7:11 pm (UTC -4)
I just cannot even believe anyone would accept Arencibia and Gose for Dickey.
If this happens, it means the Mets now are the Pirates, the A’s, or the Expos.
I could understand Beltran and Reyes, and I understand trading Dickey for d’Arnaud or Profar or even Olt and Martin.
But aside from a few HR–and surely he would hit less in Citi–Thole is a BETTER offensive player than Arencibia.
And thus far, Gose has not hit much at ANY level, including in Las Vegas in the PCL.
If this trade happens, it is 100% a salary dump, and if anyone even suggests it is part of a “plan” to improve the team, well…..
It f***ing BETTER not be Arencibia and Gose. We already have Thole and Kirk.
Let us pray that the delay is Sandy holding out for d’Arnaud.
Prismo
12/14/2012-8:37pm at 8:37 pm (UTC -4)
Rumors are now saying D’Arnaud may be included. Of course, I believe nothing until anything is official.
kingman 26
12/14/2012-8:51pm at 8:51 pm (UTC -4)
If we get d’Arnaud,, Sandy has hit a home run and I cannot wait to write about it.
That is the type of prospect you must get in a deal like this.
If–if–this happens, I will be thrilled.
Prismo
12/14/2012-8:56pm at 8:56 pm (UTC -4)
Totally agree. Essentially Sandy would have gotten Wheeler and D’Arnaud for 2 expiring contracts in a couple year’s time. These are two of the top top prospects in all of baseball. But let’s wait and see, I don’t want to get my hopes up.
If Toronto would include Gose I think the Mets should offer another top prospect in return – Flores, Mejia, something like that. I’d be okay with that deal.
TX
12/14/2012-8:54pm at 8:54 pm (UTC -4)
If it is D’Arnaud and Gose, I’ll be one happy camper. My offseason plan is coming together… Muhahaha
Stickguy
12/14/2012-8:57pm at 8:57 pm (UTC -4)
If they will get tess of the D’aubervilees, I will stop asking for AJP.
TX
12/14/2012-9:01pm at 9:01 pm (UTC -4)
And that, in itself, is worth it’s weight in beer.
Prismo
12/14/2012-9:00pm at 9:00 pm (UTC -4)
Yep and since they would still have all the FA money left, plus Dickey’s salary…should still be able to go out and get Cody Ross, a starter (even if it’s Lannan), and a couple proven relievers (although to be honest I have no idea who’s left on the market).
TX
12/14/2012-9:03pm at 9:03 pm (UTC -4)
And that, to me, would be a successful offseason. Did you read my post above?
Prismo
12/14/2012-9:06pm at 9:06 pm (UTC -4)
No, I hadn’t haha! But not JP. D’Arnaud.
TX
12/14/2012-9:08pm at 9:08 pm (UTC -4)
Well, JP + a high end SP in the minors.
Prismo
12/14/2012-9:11pm at 9:11 pm (UTC -4)
Not JP.
D’Arnaud.
THE END!
srt
12/14/2012-10:26pm at 10:26 pm (UTC -4)
I’m late to this news tonight but:
‘I just cannot even believe anyone would accept Arencibia and Gose for Dickey.’
What you said, Kingman. I really don’t care for Arencibia, see him as a platoon or back up catcher. I don’t care how old Dickey is. He’s the reigning CY winner and is not likely to regress much – at least will put up solid ’10 and ’11 numbers.
Stick
12/14/2012-10:41pm at 10:41 pm (UTC -4)
seem to be plenty of reports now that D’a is the middle of it. Get Gose too, and I can live with that.
take the money saved and get lannan for a year. no, not the same thing, but at least there will be some exciting young players on the field, and at least 2 spots filled with a player that knows how to play the spots!
srt
12/14/2012-10:56pm at 10:56 pm (UTC -4)
Seeing the rumors that Dickey won’t sign an extension to play in Toronto. If true, have to wonder if TD is involved in this deal…if Jays will pull him back b/c of the no extension.
Then..at that point wonder if SA accepts lesser prospects or nixes the trade with the Jays all together. I hope it’s the second one. I just cannot see giving up Dickey unless we’re getting something of equal value back. 3 mediocre or platoon type guys do not equal one highly rated catching prospect – IMO.
Stick
12/14/2012-11:10pm at 11:10 pm (UTC -4)
I bet he signs the extension anyway. I really get the impression that he wants to lock in his retirement $$, just in case. Actually, Toronto is a fantastic city. Very urbane. Perfect for him.
srt
12/14/2012-11:26pm at 11:26 pm (UTC -4)
Martino is now reporting on Twitter that rumors on Dickey not willing to sign an extension with Toronto is false.
I at first thought it might make sense b/c of maybe colder weather in April/May and his knuckleball – plus being that much farther away than his home town in TN. He said he liked NY in part b/c it’s a 2 hour plane flight to home.
Don’t know what is fact at this point.
Saw a comment on MMO that a couple of these prospects rumored to be in this trade (and TD is one of those) – have inflated numbers last season in AAA due to home field being Las Vegas. Really? Dang….how do you figure out what they can really do then?
And how the heck the Mets AAA wound up there is just really poor.
Stick
12/14/2012-11:41pm at 11:41 pm (UTC -4)
agreed about Vegas. the whole MiL affiliate process is just strange. Seems like more teams should just buy all their farm teams.
and not wanting to upset Knog, But Dickey is every bit, if not more, focused on his money than Wright was. He was pretty clear from things he said, and what he was doing, that locking in his “retirement plan” was a huge thing for him. This was not a guy that that was anxious to try and play out his deal to hit FA! Way too much risk for him.
And FYI, Toronto is a fantastic city that would love RA. And it is 120 miles CLOSER to Nashville than NYC is.
not sure about the Vegas impact on those guys, but they did just as good on the road, and are talented. And key to the Mets, both are highly regarded defensively. And of course, will be dirt cheap for many years to come!
darknova306
12/14/2012-11:48pm at 11:48 pm (UTC -4)
At this point shouldn’t we be able to normalize the PCL’s hitting/pitching stats against the rest of the AAA leagues? Just from a numbers standpoint, I have to imagine it’s not hard to bring the numbers in line with what they’d look like elsewhere (though I don’t know if anyone has bothered, and I’m certainly way too lazy).
srt
12/15/2012-12:05am at 12:05 am (UTC -4)
I would hope there’s some kind of curve they use to evaluate prospects who play their home games in Vegas….
Agree stick about Dickey and the money. He’s no spring chicken, he worked so hard to get where he is right now – I can’t blame him for taking that ‘retirement’ money. Pitching in Toronto for 3-4 years is probably a small price to pay for being set for life.
srt
12/15/2012-12:41am at 12:41 am (UTC -4)
Oh wait a minute…Toronto has a dome,right?
Forget my comment about the weather then.
They’ve also got that god-awful artificial turf, not that it should affect Dickey any.
Stick
12/14/2012-10:45pm at 10:45 pm (UTC -4)
oh, I saw at that other place that your stalker is still obsessed. Amazing. You better say something mean about Sandy.
srt
12/14/2012-10:58pm at 10:58 pm (UTC -4)
LOL…
Seriously though, I’ve never ‘read’ an angrier person on any of these board then him. It’s baseball for crying out loud – not religion or politics or something equally as personal in opinion.
Crazy.
TX
12/14/2012-9:00pm at 9:00 pm (UTC -4)
New thread?
Prismo
12/14/2012-9:04pm at 9:04 pm (UTC -4)
Way OT: Anyone else watch/read Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice and Fire? I’m veritably obsessed.
wanny
12/14/2012-9:13pm at 9:13 pm (UTC -4)
Toronto has to go all in before buehrle goes to pasture and Johnson’s arm falls off.
wanny
12/14/2012-11:07pm at 11:07 pm (UTC -4)
All kinds of rumored packages. I like the darnaud syndergaard DJ Davis one the best. Hard to believe tho.
TX
12/14/2012-11:41pm at 11:41 pm (UTC -4)
I don’t see how that package works, though I’d have no complaints.
Stick
12/14/2012-11:51pm at 11:51 pm (UTC -4)
anyway, just get a deal done, and let’s move on to the rest of the work needed. Of course we don’t know what that is until we see the return.
let us assume it is Gose for CF and Travis for C.
the IF in theory is set. So is CF.
We need a SP: Get lannan?
We need 2 corner OFs: here I am going out of the box. One side will be a platoon (baxter or Kirk and a RH batter – Hairston? Hoffman? Some other huge split guy?
but for LF, not cody ross, but Soriano. Need the RH power, and I will take a chance with his D out there in LF, with gose covering for him.
OF could be Soriano/gose/(baxter/hairston) with Kirk as the 5th. Should get some production out of that, and pretty cheap overall (Cubs will eat a lot of salary).
Thole can be the BU catcher. Someone will be the BU MI.
rotation santana/neise/lannan/harvey/gee
Pen, just need to find another back end/could close arm: That vinnie guy from Cleveland for Duda+.
OK, off season done.
srt
12/15/2012-12:19am at 12:19 am (UTC -4)
I’ll be curious to see how many or these rumors become facts.
Remember the late morning where they said Lee heading to the Yankees was all but a done deal and by 4pm he landed in Philly? LOL.