In a follow-up to yesterdays report by Adam Rubin of ESPN New York where he reported a team insider said it’s conceivable the Mets actually will not add an outfielder on a major league contract this off season. Today he reports that another official familiar with the organization’s intentions said Friday that the outfield at least remains on the shopping list. He also writes that according to a source a trade remains possible to address the bullpen and starting rotation. Former Met Chris Young was mentioned as a “viable” option.
Jan 04
Outfield Remains At The Least On Mets Shopping List | Trade Still Possible To Address Needs
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17 comments
Stickguy
1/4/2013-12:32pm at 12:32 pm (UTC -4)
they will do something. unless of course they don’t.
either way, opening day will happen and they will play 162 games with varying levels of success. Which is really all they are required to do (“owe the fans”).
TRS86
1/4/2013-12:40pm at 12:40 pm (UTC -4)
It’s certainly “conceivable”.
srt
1/4/2013-12:54pm at 12:54 pm (UTC -4)
‘they will do something. unless of course they don’t.’
LOL…..
IMO, they don’t really know right now if they’re going to add a ML for the OF. Depends on what deals they can make either with a lower FA or in a trade.
Wouldn’t surprise me if they go into ST still trying to sort it out.
gategem
1/5/2013-1:25am at 1:25 am (UTC -4)
Applying the same reasoning if you frequent an expensive restaurant and order chicken and the chicken looks as if it ran and lost in a local marathon and tastes as would a rubber chicken then you must accept it because all the restaurant owes you is a chicken dinner. It’s bad enough that we receive little value for the taxes collected by the various governments do we also have to accept garbage in our choice of entertainment?
Prismo
1/4/2013-1:47pm at 1:47 pm (UTC -4)
So overnight Jeff Passan released his outlook on the Mets (whom he rates 28th in baseball): http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/no–28-mets–clean-up-of-wilpon-mess-begins-after-brilliant-trade-of-r-a–dickey-060918324.html
There are some things I agree with, but some are puzzling.
“The Mets’ outfield is a semicircle of fringe major leaguers. Its middle infield is meh, its corner infield hurt too much and its bullpen flimsy at best, nuclear at worst.”
Outfield: agree
Middle Infield: I think Tejada and Murphy are probably close to average overall. “Meh” makes it sound like more trash.
Corner Infield: HURT TOO MUCH!? Wright played in 156 games last season and has average 149 games per season over the past 8 years. Ike Davis also played in 156 games last season. How is that hurt too much? WHAT AM I MISSING HERE.
Bullpen: Agree, but this is a hard thing to predict year-to-year.
Stick
1/4/2013-1:58pm at 1:58 pm (UTC -4)
sounds like at least 4 of the 7 pen guys will be new. so need to at least see who they are (if not how they do!) before annointing them “nuclear”
Marc
1/4/2013-9:06pm at 9:06 pm (UTC -4)
I actually think Tejada is better than avg. Murph’s fielding has improved. Once the catching prospect catches on, we’re a centerfielder away from bring very strong up the middle. Teams strong up the middle with excellent starting pitching tend to win playoff games. Seems like that’s what Alderson is trying to piece together
TX
1/4/2013-1:58pm at 1:58 pm (UTC -4)
I’d agree with you that the HURT TOO MUCH is plain stupid. I would, however, have to agree that the MI leans more toward meh that towards average. They either need to hit more or show better D (which includes range. Looking at you Murph). I think they can rebound and show a little more than they have but if they replicate what they did this past year, it’ll be nothing special. Not horrible, but nothing special. That to me is a Meh.
I can’t get to this website from work. What did they say on the SP?
Prismo
1/4/2013-2:22pm at 2:22 pm (UTC -4)
“Since the last quarter-century has been rather unkind to Mets fans, perhaps a carrot of optimism is worth dangling before the gore: The starting rotation, with Johan Santana, Matt Harvey, Jonathon Niese, Dillon Gee and eventually Zack Wheeler, could be pretty good. Especially since Santana is in the final season of his six-year, $137.5 million contract. “
greggofboken
1/4/2013-3:12pm at 3:12 pm (UTC -4)
The pen had a collective -1.9 WAR last season. And the guys that are definitely gone (Acosta, -1.2, Carrasco, -.1, Ramirez and Rauch – 0) were the bulk of that poor mark. If the Mets merely receive replacement player work from the guys replacing them (an awfully low benchmark), the pen will be improved.
Lucas Duda did nearly as much damage all by his lonesome as the full bullpen did last year.
greggofboken
1/4/2013-3:15pm at 3:15 pm (UTC -4)
Addendum: I left out Pedro Beato from the above (a -.5) and Miggy Batista (a -.2)/
Stick
1/4/2013-3:50pm at 3:50 pm (UTC -4)
that is why I don’t buy in that the pen is guaranteed to stink because it did last year. It seems that probably at least 4/7 will be new, and as you noted, the really bad offenders were already removed.
And I am not as down on triple-F as some people. Cautiously optimistic he can have an OK year, but hopefully someone steps up and takes over as closer.
after an erratic April, he was actually pretty solid and reliable for a couple months until he got hurt at the end of June and missed Jule. then it was not pretty for a while in August, but September was fine. And when he went down, it really took the pen down, and coincided (maybe was the final straw) to when the record went into the dumper.
Not saying he is going to be mariano next season, but if he can avoid a big injury he can certainly be useful, and the “veteran presence”.
other than that, the carry overs are what, parnell and Edgin, the 2 guys that actually did well? Potentially a decent nucleus.
throw in a long guy (Heffner? Laffinggas?), Bourke and you get to 5.
the real crapshoot then is, how do the 2 live arms that take the other jobs (mejia/familia/ one of the other system guys) do? If they can add value, the pen suddenly can be anywhere from fine to respectable.
but no way in Hell can I see it being the same level of train wreck as last year!
Stick
1/4/2013-3:56pm at 3:56 pm (UTC -4)
just for S&Gs, I looked at how he finished the year.
after 2 iffy weeks coming back in August, (after missing 5) from 8/24 thru year end, he had a 2.08 ERA, WHIP below 1, and a K rate of around 12 per 9.
So he really was not the problem last year that some like to make him out to be.
greggofboken
1/4/2013-4:04pm at 4:04 pm (UTC -4)
I agree with you completely on Frankie Frank. Injuries drove a lot of it, and the horrid start that you mention. HIs WHIP and ERA were significant deviations from his norm. I expect him to be a marked improvement this year.
I remember saying the same thing about Carrasco — though that didn’t work out so well.
(Conversely, I expect Parnell to come back to earth a little. Perhaps he’s figured it all out finally….but I’ve been burned by saying that in the past.)
gategem
1/5/2013-2:00am at 2:00 am (UTC -4)
Triple F’s norm was acquired pitching in situations outside of the closers role. Other teams have tried him as a closer and have found him lacking in this role. Now I know that some in the baseball metrics world say it shouldn’t matter and when taken over a large statistical ensemble they are correct. But on an individual basis human beings tend to deviate from the norm based on human frailties. So for some reason, probably emotional, Triple F has had problems with closing.
gategem
1/5/2013-1:35am at 1:35 am (UTC -4)
Prismo, he’s probably using the last few years as a factor in the projection and not just relying solely on last year’s results. I’m not saying he’s correct I’m just trying to understand the reason for his prognostication.
BTW Murphy plays second as would a short fielder in softball.
Matt Mo
1/5/2013-1:04am at 1:04 am (UTC -4)
The pen doesn’t concern me as much either just because of the sheer volume of promising young bullpen arms we have.
The outfield on the other hand…