Link: 20 questions: What’s state of Mets’ farm?

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   Stick

   1/21/2013-12:42pm at 12:42 pm (UTC -4)

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   I really hope the system outperforms the rankings. With all the money problems and the mess at the top, they are going to need some serious long shots to come in!

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   kingman 26

   1/21/2013-2:28pm at 2:28 pm (UTC -4)

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   “There are no rings awarded for the best ranking”–no, but they do award rings for your teams doing poorly and your prospects declining at each level they ascend to.

   “…guys like Tejada and Gee were never ranked terribly high anyway.”–and they still aren’t. Does he think they are all-stars? They are decent, average (if that) MLB players thus far and nothing more.

   A light-hitting shortstop and a decent 5th starter (both Minaya-era products) are what he is pointing to?

   Wow.

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      Stick

      1/21/2013-3:38pm at 3:38 pm (UTC -4)

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      Give them more credit. In MLB, generating legit everyday players, even if not stars, is actually pretty hard to do. And being able to pump out guys like this is huge, since it saves resources (trade chips and $$) from not having to go out and find them on the open market.

      so from that standpoint, I see what he is saying about taking the rankings with a grain of salt, since they represent guys that were never highly rated but turned out to be valuable ML players.

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         kingman 26

         1/21/2013-4:03pm at 4:03 pm (UTC -4)

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         Great point.

         How many have Sandy and minions developed in 2+ years?

         Ike, Murph, Tejada, Wright, Duda, Kirk, Niese, Johan, Harvey, Gee, Parnell—what do they all have in common?

         Baxter, Frank Frank, Hu, Emaus, Carrasco, Rauch, Young–what do they all have in common?

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            Stickguy

            1/21/2013-4:15pm at 4:15 pm (UTC -4)

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            you are all over the place here man.

            for one thing, they have nothing in common, since one list is guys that came out of the minors (other than Johan) and the others were ST filler pieces signed to fill in the gaps in the roster that existed because there were not enough guys in the minors worth having to fill them.

            Don’t tell me you are joining the “omar a genius Sandy the devil” brigade?

            and of course, Wright has nothing to do with Omar, so maybe he should be in the Sandy column?

            so what is the point? Really not enough time for Sandy era draft picks to be up and making a difference yet. And his big acquisitions should probably be coming up by June, so will he get credit then?

            At least be fair. Give Sandy 7 years on the job, then 2 years after that, and see what his player list looks like. At least that way you are comparing equal bodies of work!

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               kingman 26

               1/22/2013-9:49am at 9:49 am (UTC -4)

               Not all over the place at all.

               Just like everyone in the Met front office now, DePodesta should keep his mouth shut and do something productive.

               What my list of players have in common is that the current regime is responsible for none of them.

               Omar will always be largely a failure in most ways, but when one currently views the team, the only productive parts are his legacies.

               And the returns for Beltran and Dickey may turn out to be great; but again, they come from players Omar left.

               I have been through this before, but I would like Alderson to find a Dave Stewart or a Dennis Eckersley–this is supposed to be what his strength is.

               He’s found pretty much nothing thus far.

               But again, the fault lies with the Wilpons, then with Omar, then with Alderson, in that order.

               The list of players this regime has acquired is a pathetic list—really pathetic. Yes, they have no money and little to trade with, but when Hairston is your top acquisition in 2+ years, that’s a horrific record.

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            srt

            1/21/2013-4:15pm at 4:15 pm (UTC -4)

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            To be fair, it usually takes more than 2 years to draft a prospect, develop them and get them to the MLs. It’s rare that you come across a Harper or Strasburg who might not need that 2 years plus.

            So comparing what Omar did vs. what SA has done up to this point is comparing apples and oranges.

            Along with that the development policy under SA seems to be one of less rushing these guys through which seemed to be the case with the last FO.

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               Stickguy

               1/21/2013-4:24pm at 4:24 pm (UTC -4)

               I honestly can’t remember what prospects Omar called up in the firt few years (what are we talking, through 2005 at this point?) Jacobs making? or was he later? Heilman I assume.

               more telling, how many of them did he have credit for bringing into the organization? Pedro and Beltran of course I am discounting, since no way in hell Sandy was given the open checkbook for that kind of deal!