I would just assume Jeff fade to the background and let the GM be the spokesman.
Could always be worse….could have Loria as the owner. Had to laugh right out loud by that self imposed gag order he’s got on his front office right now.
Interesting John Buck working with Parnell already telling him how he was tipping his pitches and needing to use his off speed stuff early in the count. Oh + needing to add a 3rd pitch.
I have no idea. It was a tweet (and can’t remember from who) saying something like ‘Buck paying off, revealing Johan was tipping his pitches at times last season.’
greggofboken
2/8/2013-7:50am at 7:50 am (UTC -4)
The tweet came from Buirkhardt who sent it yesterday. There were no further details given.
The Johan tipping his pitches last year was after he hurt his ankle getting stepped on covering first. His mechanics changed and he apparently started telegraphing pitches. When healthy it wasn’t an issue.
srt
2/8/2013-8:12am at 8:12 am (UTC -4)
Sounds plausible.
I have to wonder if Turner didn’t step on that ankle, if Johan would have made the full season. So many think the high pitch count in the no hitter is what did him in. I never really bought that explanation.
Stick
2/8/2013-9:17am at 9:17 am (UTC -4)
It was bogus. He was rusty the first game back (all that extra rest?) but for the rest of June (4 more games) he pitched every bit as well. June 30th, 8 IP, 3 hits, 2 BBs, and he was sitting on a 2.76 ERA (it was 2.75 or so going into the NH). In 16 games.
next game, he gets trampled, and for some unknown reason (other than, this is the Mets) he stayed in, got raked, then pitched 4 more games beofre finally getting trampled.
so basically, he was more than fine before the ankle stomp.
Yes, apparently so. Then again, I part have to question advice on pitch tipping form a guy who hit .194 last year. But what the heck, as Stick says he’s a veteran and I agree he may very well could spot stuff even if he can’t hit it.
It’s only a DUI, it’s not like he took PEDs or anything (or so goes the logic of the self-righteous beat writers). I’m perpetually disgusted with how much the loser sports writers will arrogantly moralize about PEDs, but will only say about 5 words when a player is caught drunk driving or assaulting a spouse. It’s disgusting and sickening. What a joke.
So odds of signing Bourn now have gone up? Is that the consensus?
I haven’t listened to the interview yet but I see the Mariners just gave King a huge 7 year contract. I’m thinking that takes them out of the running for Bourn. And if yes, who exactly, is left?
I have to think that if Boras had a better offer from another team than what the Mets are offering he’d already be signed with that team.
I still don’t really want him. I think it is going to be a bad combination of disappointing performance, with a blowing the wad component meaning that is it, no more “real” players for the next couple of year.
Mariners? I think it should be more likely. if they are committing to try and win, they could really use a guy like him. Felix was already making about 20mill in 2013/14, so the new deal is not really changing anything much.
Agreed, Stick. Bourn would be the only real FA for the next several years, and that would be awful for this team.
The Mariners have almost no real players or contracts outside of King Felix, so they should easily be able to afford the Bourn. (Though I don’t really know much about their finances, in all honesty).
Hernandez’s salary for this year and next remain unchanged. The deal is really a 5-year extension at $135M. He passes $30M a year with it. And that’s just crazy.
I’m still kind of torn. I wouldn’t mind signing him on something like a 3 year, 12 MIL a year type contract. But good luck getting Boras to agree with that.
Actually I am fine with 3/45 as long as no pick is given up.
Back to the M’s. I think they would now be the front runners for Stanton. They need to win after signing that type of contract to a pitcher. The package they offered for Upton then sweetened just a little? Done deal.
srt
2/8/2013-9:07am at 9:07 am (UTC -4)
I wouldn’t mind a 3/45. For me, it’s the amount of years I’d have a problem with more so than the money.
The Stanton sweepstakes are going to be interesting. I’m thinking he remains a Marlin until the end of the season – that’s when they’ll put him on the trading block. The Mets better at least check in, but I doubt we’d wind up in the running.
Stick
2/8/2013-9:20am at 9:20 am (UTC -4)
SRT< I think the Mets are an incredible long shot. and if they have to clean out the farm, it might be for the best! Remember, he might be good, but the Marlins only won 69 games with him! So if there is little other talent, don't expect much better if the rotation is Hefner, Laffy taffy, etc.
Real. they would lose their 2nd round pick (and slot money) just not the 1st rounder.
and going to Seattle would be great. that way, he would not haunt the Mets. Ending up in philly would be bad (hard to see nats or Braves now). And the Yankees would just be annoying.
Yeah, I know Stick and I am fine with that. When I say pick I mean 1st round.
As for Stanton he is NOT going to anyone in the NL East. There is no way. The Phillies could give them their entire farm system and they are still not trading him there.
srt
2/8/2013-9:42am at 9:42 am (UTC -4)
Agree with both of you on Stanton.
Going to the far, far away Mariners would be fine with me.
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Mr North Jersey
2/7/2013-4:15pm at 4:15 pm (UTC -4)
Ha! Brandon Butler was the 1st twitter question taken.
greggofboken
2/7/2013-5:37pm at 5:37 pm (UTC -4)
Telejournalism’s version of slo-pitch softball.
(Questions about the dog?)
That’s got to be the easiest session Sandy ever had. He really didn’t say much of anything. Now….if he could teach that to Jeff…
srt
2/7/2013-6:47pm at 6:47 pm (UTC -4)
I would just assume Jeff fade to the background and let the GM be the spokesman.
Could always be worse….could have Loria as the owner. Had to laugh right out loud by that self imposed gag order he’s got on his front office right now.
Stick
2/7/2013-6:51pm at 6:51 pm (UTC -4)
take my word for it. 1 more year, Sandy leaves, and Jeffy takes over as the “real” GM with JP as his front man puppet.
gategem
2/8/2013-3:07pm at 3:07 pm (UTC -4)
Bite your tongue. Just for thinking this you are hereby sent for a “time out.”
gategem
2/8/2013-3:04pm at 3:04 pm (UTC -4)
Jeb Bush attempted to purchase the Marlins but was rebuffed by Loria. I wonder if Loria is sorry he turned Bush down.
SaltyGary
2/7/2013-6:56pm at 6:56 pm (UTC -4)
It was SOOOOO bad. I just wanted to wait for the more positive people to say something first.
“So Sandy does Buddy hang out with you when agents are around”?
Hazmet
2/7/2013-7:47pm at 7:47 pm (UTC -4)
Mets Hot Stove Tonight TidBits:
Interesting John Buck working with Parnell already telling him how he was tipping his pitches and needing to use his off speed stuff early in the count. Oh + needing to add a 3rd pitch.
Stick
2/7/2013-8:21pm at 8:21 pm (UTC -4)
don’t discount the benefit of a savvy, experienced veteran catcher.
Wonder what other pitch Parnell can master quick that would help?
srt
2/7/2013-9:34pm at 9:34 pm (UTC -4)
Parnell? I saw a tweet earlier saying Buck talking about Johan tipping his pitches last year.
darknova306
2/7/2013-9:56pm at 9:56 pm (UTC -4)
Really? I hadn’t seen that. How was Johan supposedly tipping pitches? I’m curious now.
srt
2/7/2013-10:12pm at 10:12 pm (UTC -4)
I have no idea. It was a tweet (and can’t remember from who) saying something like ‘Buck paying off, revealing Johan was tipping his pitches at times last season.’
greggofboken
2/8/2013-7:50am at 7:50 am (UTC -4)
The tweet came from Buirkhardt who sent it yesterday. There were no further details given.
Hazmet
2/7/2013-11:00pm at 11:00 pm (UTC -4)
The Johan tipping his pitches last year was after he hurt his ankle getting stepped on covering first. His mechanics changed and he apparently started telegraphing pitches. When healthy it wasn’t an issue.
srt
2/8/2013-8:12am at 8:12 am (UTC -4)
Sounds plausible.
I have to wonder if Turner didn’t step on that ankle, if Johan would have made the full season. So many think the high pitch count in the no hitter is what did him in. I never really bought that explanation.
Stick
2/8/2013-9:17am at 9:17 am (UTC -4)
It was bogus. He was rusty the first game back (all that extra rest?) but for the rest of June (4 more games) he pitched every bit as well. June 30th, 8 IP, 3 hits, 2 BBs, and he was sitting on a 2.76 ERA (it was 2.75 or so going into the NH). In 16 games.
next game, he gets trampled, and for some unknown reason (other than, this is the Mets) he stayed in, got raked, then pitched 4 more games beofre finally getting trampled.
so basically, he was more than fine before the ankle stomp.
gategem
2/8/2013-3:22pm at 3:22 pm (UTC -4)
He was praying whenever he threw the fastball.
Hazmet
2/7/2013-11:05pm at 11:05 pm (UTC -4)
Yes, apparently so. Then again, I part have to question advice on pitch tipping form a guy who hit .194 last year. But what the heck, as Stick says he’s a veteran and I agree he may very well could spot stuff even if he can’t hit it.
Hazmet
2/7/2013-7:50pm at 7:50 pm (UTC -4)
Todd Helton DUI while out to buy lottery tickets. Really Todd? That 141M + 10M deal couldn’t hold you over?
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/colorado-rockies-todd-helton-arrested-dui-charge-020613?ocid=ansfox11
Stick
2/7/2013-8:20pm at 8:20 pm (UTC -4)
what a dope. Send the butler out for them.
Hazmet
2/7/2013-8:56pm at 8:56 pm (UTC -4)
ditto.
srt
2/7/2013-9:35pm at 9:35 pm (UTC -4)
Dummy.
darknova306
2/7/2013-9:59pm at 9:59 pm (UTC -4)
It’s only a DUI, it’s not like he took PEDs or anything (or so goes the logic of the self-righteous beat writers). I’m perpetually disgusted with how much the loser sports writers will arrogantly moralize about PEDs, but will only say about 5 words when a player is caught drunk driving or assaulting a spouse. It’s disgusting and sickening. What a joke.
Hazmet
2/7/2013-11:10pm at 11:10 pm (UTC -4)
Hear, Hear, well said. So much for these dude’s ever heeding the cautionary events of Jim Leyritz and alike. Just disgusting.
srt
2/7/2013-10:22pm at 10:22 pm (UTC -4)
So odds of signing Bourn now have gone up? Is that the consensus?
I haven’t listened to the interview yet but I see the Mariners just gave King a huge 7 year contract. I’m thinking that takes them out of the running for Bourn. And if yes, who exactly, is left?
I have to think that if Boras had a better offer from another team than what the Mets are offering he’d already be signed with that team.
Stick
2/7/2013-10:35pm at 10:35 pm (UTC -4)
I still don’t really want him. I think it is going to be a bad combination of disappointing performance, with a blowing the wad component meaning that is it, no more “real” players for the next couple of year.
Mariners? I think it should be more likely. if they are committing to try and win, they could really use a guy like him. Felix was already making about 20mill in 2013/14, so the new deal is not really changing anything much.
darknova306
2/7/2013-10:48pm at 10:48 pm (UTC -4)
Agreed, Stick. Bourn would be the only real FA for the next several years, and that would be awful for this team.
The Mariners have almost no real players or contracts outside of King Felix, so they should easily be able to afford the Bourn. (Though I don’t really know much about their finances, in all honesty).
greggofboken
2/7/2013-11:08pm at 11:08 pm (UTC -4)
Hernandez’s salary for this year and next remain unchanged. The deal is really a 5-year extension at $135M. He passes $30M a year with it. And that’s just crazy.
srt
2/8/2013-8:13am at 8:13 am (UTC -4)
I’m still kind of torn. I wouldn’t mind signing him on something like a 3 year, 12 MIL a year type contract. But good luck getting Boras to agree with that.
TRS86
2/8/2013-8:34am at 8:34 am (UTC -4)
Actually I am fine with 3/45 as long as no pick is given up.
Back to the M’s. I think they would now be the front runners for Stanton. They need to win after signing that type of contract to a pitcher. The package they offered for Upton then sweetened just a little? Done deal.
srt
2/8/2013-9:07am at 9:07 am (UTC -4)
I wouldn’t mind a 3/45. For me, it’s the amount of years I’d have a problem with more so than the money.
The Stanton sweepstakes are going to be interesting. I’m thinking he remains a Marlin until the end of the season – that’s when they’ll put him on the trading block. The Mets better at least check in, but I doubt we’d wind up in the running.
Stick
2/8/2013-9:20am at 9:20 am (UTC -4)
SRT< I think the Mets are an incredible long shot. and if they have to clean out the farm, it might be for the best! Remember, he might be good, but the Marlins only won 69 games with him! So if there is little other talent, don't expect much better if the rotation is Hefner, Laffy taffy, etc.
Real. they would lose their 2nd round pick (and slot money) just not the 1st rounder.
and going to Seattle would be great. that way, he would not haunt the Mets. Ending up in philly would be bad (hard to see nats or Braves now). And the Yankees would just be annoying.
TRS86
2/8/2013-9:31am at 9:31 am (UTC -4)
Yeah, I know Stick and I am fine with that. When I say pick I mean 1st round.
As for Stanton he is NOT going to anyone in the NL East. There is no way. The Phillies could give them their entire farm system and they are still not trading him there.
srt
2/8/2013-9:42am at 9:42 am (UTC -4)
Agree with both of you on Stanton.
Going to the far, far away Mariners would be fine with me.